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  • #16
    Re: GS/3 dumped

    Originally posted by 6C4852424940210 link=1287534812/12#12 date=1287647839
    im still a bit confused about why anyone buys anything other than a minore III honestly...

    Easy Mischa,

    They have the $$$ to afford the Alex Duetto and are prepared to pay for the performance and quality of the machine.

    Chris

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    • #17
      Re: GS/3 dumped

      Getting a bit off topic here fellas...

      If you have your heart set on a La Marzocco, talk to Pedro at Coffeeparts. He will order one for you. He also keeps a vast range of consumables for all La Marzocco machines.

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      • #18
        Re: GS/3 dumped

        Hey Paolo

        when are you upgrading to a Minore ?

        and trading that toper for a popper ?

        (reading your sig with jealousy, wishing i had a linea and toper)

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        • #19
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          i knew id stir a few with that comment :P

          i dont own one by the way... although id like to

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          • #20
            Re: GS/3 dumped

            Thats sad Chris, but totally understandable. Lead time on LMs are foolish. Yes, new or additional national distributors are needed. I heard that since the GFC La Marz are only making to order.... well in that case the national distributors should stock up. Weak excuse I reckon, and frustration for those who are trying to put LMs in place. Having only 3 shipments a year is a joke.

            In regards to GS3s vs anything else in the 3K-4.5K range or less theres no competition. GS3 blows them out of the water, thats a no brainer.

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            • #21
              Re: GS/3 dumped

              Originally posted by 4B57574853320 link=1287534812/19#19 date=1287880179
              Thats sad Chris, but totally understandable. Lead time on LMs are foolish. Yes, new or additional national distributors are needed. I heard that since the GFC La Marz are only making to order.... well in that case the national distributors should stock up. Weak excuse I reckon, and frustration for those who are trying to put LMs in place. Having only 3 shipments a year is a joke.

              In regards to GS3s vs anything else in the 3K-4.5K range or less theres no competition. GS3 blows them out of the water, thats a no brainer.
              Yeah YeeZa,

              Its a joke on so many levels.

              When a small operation like us can hold stock of a machine which is in the $4k range, the "were just a small operation so we cant afford to hold stock" excuses just dont cut it with me. In addition, the margins taken by the importer are very steep. I know it because I saw an invoice on a 2 gp Linea that I shouldnt have seen about 18 months ago. The importers allow us a margin less than that on a Expobar Office SA, which is ridiculous. There is no incentive to grow the brand :.

              As for LM v e-61, I use both each day: I have a GS/3, but I use the Izzo all the time at the shed. God shot out of both is still a god shot and I really think youd have to have an amazing palate to call one as better.

              I love my GS/3, but am under no illusion that its way more fragile than the Izzo (2 write offs for 5 sales) and that a big conical grinder will contribute to far more in the cup than a saturated group will.

              Chris

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              • #22
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                And I just ordered my GS3 too. Well some weeks ago (July) Im still hopefull of a pre-xmas delivery though.

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                • #23
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                  What I love reading is businesses/sponsors willing to tell the truth, good on you Chris.

                  Yes I read through all the sections even though Im only just starting out

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                  • #24
                    Re: GS/3 dumped

                    Originally posted by 45707D7A4E527E77777474110 link=1287534812/15#15 date=1287651957
                    They have the $$$ to afford the Alex Duetto and are prepared to pay for the performance and quality of the machine.  
                    Have not regretted doing so either - its a wonderful machine.

                    Agreed shapeshifter, cheers to Chris for pointing out the flaws with the GS/3 so readily.  I was tempted by one but it was good to have Chris point out the ease with which they deform and become unusable.

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                    • #25
                      Re: GS/3 dumped

                      Originally posted by 726B6F786B0A0 link=1287534812/23#23 date=1288484926
                      Originally posted by 45707D7A4E527E77777474110 link=1287534812/15#15 date=1287651957
                      They have the $$$ to afford the Alex Duetto and are prepared to pay for the performance and quality of the machine.  
                      Have not regretted doing so either - its a wonderful machine.

                      Agreed shapeshifter, cheers to Chris for pointing out the flaws with the GS/3 so readily.  I was tempted by one but it was good to have Chris point out the ease with which they deform and become unusable.
                      Thanks John,

                      The GS/3 is a good machine and I like mine for a whole host of reasons, however the chassis weakness led me to lose all confidence that any freight company was likely to deliver one in good condition, even though LM pack them pretty well.

                      Are they good value for money? Nope.  [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
                      Is support adequate? Nope.
                      Chassis underdone? Yep.
                      Do they require regular service? Yep..

                      I know of a paddle group LM in a busy Melbourne cafe. They are replacing the viton o-rings in the group every 2 months and I have gone through 2 sets at home. In addition, the exhaust valve has a softener screen on the end of it to prevent splash into the driip tray. Despite frequent backwashing, mine was completely blocked within 10 months of home use. There is still work to do on this machine to make it deliver what it promises.

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