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  • Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

    I did a bit of googling and it looks like a 15Amp machine. Is this the case, or would I be able to plug it straight into the wall (we dont have any 15amp sockets at home).

    Thinking of selling the motorbike for this beauty!

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    Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

    Originally posted by 3F3C292F252D203C2D22383F4C0 link=1311479890/3#3 date=1311678165
    I did a bit of googling and it looks like a 15Amp machine. Is this the case, or would I be able to plug it straight into the wall (we dont have any 15amp sockets at home).

    Thinking of selling the motorbike for this beauty
    Our machines are PID configured to prioritise the brew boiler and then attend to steam. When the PID is configured this way, the machine will draw well under 10A. If a higher amperage circuit is available, the PID can be configured to look after both boilers together. The machine will draw slightly over 10A in this configuration and for this reason, would need to be on a 15A circuit.

    If SubContractor has set his machine to run in 15A mode, it will take 5 seconds to reset the PID to 10A mode and then you can plug in to your 10A circuit.

    Hope that helps

    Chris

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    • #3
      Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

      Hi Simon

      I havent changed the config at all, the PID is running as it was from when Chris set it up, so its configured for standard 10A point. For what its worth, it heats up really fast anyway

      I havent weighted it, but it certainly feels every one of those 32KG. I can put it on a skid if it needs to take a journey.

      Regards
      Andrew

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        Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

        Originally posted by 4F7A77704458747D7D7E7E1B0 link=1311479890/4#4 date=1311678547
        When the PID is configured this way, the machine will draw well under 10A. If a higher amperage circuit is available, the PID can be configured to look after both boilers together. The machine will draw slightly over 10A in this configuration and for this reason, would need to be on a 15A circuit.
        Strictly speaking and to remain compliant with the Regs, if a User/Owner is able to reconfigure the machine via a software change such that it draws more than 10Amps, then it MUST be connected to a 15Amp circuit with its own Circuit Breaker, regardless that it may currently be configured to run on less than 10Amps.

        Anyone who owns one of these machines should contact their local licensed electrician to have a 15Amp circuit installed, if they dont already have one....

        Mal.

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          Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

          Originally posted by 0E23272B264A0 link=1311479890/6#6 date=1311756743
          Originally posted by 4F7A77704458747D7D7E7E1B0 link=1311479890/4#4 date=1311678547
          When the PID is configured this way, the machine will draw well under 10A. If a higher amperage circuit is available, the PID can be configured to look after both boilers together. The machine will draw slightly over 10A in this configuration and for this reason, would need to be on a 15A circuit.
          Strictly speaking and to remain compliant with the Regs, if a User/Owner is able to reconfigure the machine via a software change such that it draws more than 10Amps, then it MUST be connected to a 15Amp circuit with its own Circuit Breaker, regardless that it may currently be configured to run on less than 10Amps.

          Anyone who owns one of these machines should contact their local licensed electrician to have a 15Amp circuit installed, if they dont already have one....

          Mal.
          Which suggests it should be supplied with a 15a plug, to ensure it can only be plugged in to a 15a circuit.

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            Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

            Originally posted by 5058565E5C46465A565E350 link=1311479890/7#7 date=1311817653
            Which suggests it should be supplied with a 15a plug, to ensure it can only be plugged in to a 15a circuit.
            We are providing all new stock with reprogrammed PID. 15A mode will no longer exist as it makes no difference in the real world. FWIW, I think posts 3-8 need to be in the discussion thread, not in SubContractors FS thread :-?

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            • #7
              Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

              I would highly recommend getting a 15A circuit installed if youre gonna run one of these machines.. in dual mode, it heats up the boilers so much quicker!!

              In 10A "brew priority" mode, its a 10-15 minute proposition to get the heat into both boilers before its ready to use.

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              • #8
                Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                [movedhere] Coffee Hardware For Sale [move by] Mal.

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                • #9
                  Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                  ballistic - most ppl recommend waiting at least half an hour before pulling shots, from cold anyway, so perhaps its a bit of a non issue?

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                    Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                    Originally posted by 4075787F4B577B72727171140 link=1311678166/5#5 date=1311817999
                    We are providing all new stock with reprogrammed PID. 15A mode will no longer exist as it makes no difference in the real world.
                    How is this achieved Chris?

                    Mal.

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                      Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                      Originally posted by 1F32363A375B0 link=1311678166/3#3 date=1311756743
                      Anyone who owns one of these machines should contact their local licensed electrician to have a 15Amp circuit installed, if they dont already have one....

                      Mal.
                      I am with Mal on this. This is akin to buying a 3000W heater fitted with a 10A (2400w max) plug and instructions to only run it on medium for safety

                      For everyones safety apart from being careful with the PID on existing units seriously consider getting a 15A plug fitted and matching circuit to your kitchen bench. There is also a matter of insurance to consider with the remote chance anything may occur in future.

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                        Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??


                        Originally posted by 6B46424E432F0 link=1311678166/3#3 date=1311756743
                        Anyone who owns one of these machines should contact their local licensed electrician to have a 15Amp circuit installed, if they dont already have one....

                        Mal.
                        I had an electrician install a 15 amp plug for my Bezzera BZ40 with 2 x 1450 Watt elements and a 3.4L boiler
                        I know its not an Izzo and I know that I could have disconnected one heating element but I wanted it working as designed

                        Originally posted by 4D4A4E414943564641482F0 link=1311678166/10#10 date=1311861297
                        There is also a matter of insurance to consider with the remote chance anything may occur in future.
                        Good point on insurance
                        Remember the QLD floods and how many people were supposed to be covered but they were not
                        Rejected on a word

                        In this case it will be 15amp

                        KK

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                        • #13
                          Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                          How was it Aussie complianced with a 10A plug?? :-?

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                            Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                            Hi Chris,

                            is the 2500W the total of the heating elements or does that also include the 3-350W for the pump too?

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                              Re: Alex Duetto II - 10A or 15A??

                              Hi bf,

                              The Alex Duetto is a classed as a commercial espresso machine.

                              Australian spec is a 10A machine and a total of 2400W in elements with priority to the brew boiler. The cord is rated 15A and ships with a 10A plug. Maximum draw is around 1800W.

                              Historically, where purchasers have requested a 15A machine, we have supplied one and configured it accordingly requiring the provision of a 15A circuit. A recently revised EU manual does contain information on PID settings but these have been removed in our machines.

                              All new stock is 10A configuration and 15A is not available as an option..

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