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  • What to look for in 2nd hand San Marino 1group Lisa

    Hi guys,

    Can any kind folks out there advise on what I will need to consider when buying a 2nd hand San Marino single group Lisa? I am told this unit is around 15 years old. I am particularly concerned that it may be a lemon. I believe it is a semi automatic unit, so no programming etc.

    What would be the steps you would take to ensure you are not wasting $650 on this? Would I need to open it up to look at the inside of the boilers for scales?

    Thanks for looking.

  • #2
    Re: What to look for in 2nd hand San Marino 1group Lisa

    You might want to get a technician to quote you on a full descale on the machine, its definitely going to be more than what you pay for the machine. I cant image how much stuff is sitting in the pump and pipes after 15 years.

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    • #3
      Re: What to look for in 2nd hand San Marino 1group Lisa



      All you can do is the follow:
      Turn ON the machine and see that everything works:
      * Heating up - steam coming from steam arm
      *group head ON/Off (see if works and how much water come out)
      *check water from boiler, for calcium and smell
      *check your gauges (steam pressure 1.2 to 1.4) pump when is pulling a shoot (9 to 10 bars)

      If you can check inside, look at the pipes close to the boiler and see if it has any leakage or calcium

      Good luck if you go ahead


      Renzo
      Di Bartoli Home Barista

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      • #4
        Re: What to look for in 2nd hand San Marino 1group Lisa

        Welcome to CS.

        Playing the devils advocate, and not answering the question directly.....

        You need to consider why you would be considering buying a 15 year old SM at any price let alone $650.00.

        Machines that have been continually used in a commercial situation, anywhere above 10yo (including some that may be used for less time but retired and stored indefinitely over a period of years), are very often a waste of money....

        They may work, which means they will pump hot water through, but what that hot water does with your coffee is an unknown quantity until you try, and I will be willing to bet money on what happens to your beans with something of the type you are considering.

        My advice would be to spend a "similar" amount and buy a good domestic like a Silvia (if it is for home use)....or a used semi commercial of far newer age. It will make better coffee....trust me. OR if it is for commerce, buy a new or late model machine.

        Hope that helps.

        Attilio
        very first CS site sponsor.

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        • #5
          Re: What to look for in 2nd hand San Marino 1group Lisa

          I agree with Attilio,

          They are a nasty machine and honestly, at >10 years old, youre doing them a favour. They should be paying you to take it off their hands.

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          • #6
            Re: What to look for in 2nd hand San Marino 1group Lisa

            Originally posted by 66535E596D715D54545757320 link=1338130030/4#4 date=1338182861
            They should be paying you to take it off their hands.
            Attention CS, Id be happy to be paid to take any used (working) semi commercial machines off anybody, San Marino or otherwise...just putting it out there.

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