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or ... hey darl, I'm thinking of rekindling my old love for ----> you ... and it all starts with purchasing a new Slayer
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Jesus, less than a year of ownership. Like you said, that's the ransom you pay for electronics.
This is all quite interesting for me, Chris, because prior to joining Coffee Snobs I couldn't have given a toss about the internal engineering of machines. But I can see now it really helps to know your way around the parts.
Sure, one can always cut their losses (and headaches) by sending the widget straight in to be serviced. Still, being able to fix an espresso machine yourself (or, if not that, at least identify the problem) must be hugely satisfying.
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Both are <12 months.
I don't like the backwash at all and it's something for the custom bench. We'll engineer a much larger sphincter as it's a real oversight in my opinion.
I suspect the other issues will come back to electronics. I'll report back as they're headed back to the Melbourne mothership to get them right.
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You're kidding.Originally posted by 2muchcoffeeman View PostMine- wakes up (inbuilt software) most days. Some days wakes up but doesn't heat from power save mode = 40 deg C idle temp and no steam either. Today it woke up but no flow from group. A theory is that the exhaust from the 3-way is a joke and I hadn't noticed that backwash was achieving diddly as they say. A skewer cleanout of the 1.5mm orifice from the 3 way released a massive amount of debris- some of which my have been the cause of group fail to proceed. To be continued as they say....
The other one decided it was going to idle at -179 deg C. Replaced a control board- no change. Replaced a brew thermocouple and it now idles anywhere between set temp and set temp -10 deg C dependent on which of its personalities it has assumed on any given day. Frustrating when you pay the price of a small car for ownership. Most small cars can reliably get you down the street for a coffee. With mine it's a game of chance...
How long have you had them for? Is this a common problem, even for brand new Slayers? Why have/how did these nuisances come to the fore?
It almost sounds as if you're trying to restore a vintage Faema (or at least tinker a very old but otherwise sturdy workhorse back to life).
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Mine- wakes up (inbuilt software) most days. Some days wakes up but doesn't heat from power save mode = 40 deg C idle temp and no steam either. Today it woke up but no flow from group. A theory is that the exhaust from the 3-way is a joke and I hadn't noticed that backwash was achieving diddly as they say. A skewer cleanout of the 1.5mm orifice from the 3 way released a massive amount of debris- some of which my have been the cause of group fail to proceed. To be continued as they say....Originally posted by Melbroaster View PostWhat happened to the slayers (plural = slayii?)
The other one decided it was going to idle at -179 deg C. Replaced a control board- no change. Replaced a brew thermocouple and it now idles anywhere between set temp and set temp -10 deg C dependent on which of its personalities it has assumed on any given day. Frustrating when you pay the price of a small car for ownership. Most small cars can reliably get you down the street for a coffee. With mine it's a game of chance...
There is a discussion thread here...Originally posted by Smee View Postit sure is a pretty looking machine the Vesuvius, would be interested to know your thoughts on it.
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Zinger! Still, once the poor technique slowly improves, he'll still have the swish gadgets hanging around to reward his persistence.Sounds like you're relying on some swish gadgets to compensate for poor technique. I'll swap you my gpp and k3 for your slayer and k10 for a few years to help you get back to your roots.
Never "got" the bleakly austere Inspector Gadget/Steve Jobs styling of this model. Then again - if I actually understood pressure profiling in the first place (which, guaranteed, I most certainly don't), I'd probably change my tune, and right quick. So, like Smee, I'm also keen to hear a professional appraisal of the Vesuvius.I now have a loaner Vesuvius...installation is done and me thinks it must now be pressure profiling playtime
With Chris being the exception, it amuses me to imagine the number of unexperienced folk out there who read a few CS threads; got revved up and cocky; shot straight down to Talk Coffee; bought a Vesuvius; roared it back home; started fiddling; screwed/blew it up...before finally realising they'd need to roar back and buy a Scace to fix what shouldn't have been broken to begin with!
Hell, I can understand that. I was almost one of them myself.
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it sure is a pretty looking machine the Vesuvius, would be interested to know your thoughts on it.Originally posted by 2muchcoffeeman View PostI think you jinxed the Slayer Trent #failtoproceed (one of a pair which are both currently boat anchors
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Good to have toys though...I now have a loaner Vesuvius and E10 at home...
On a positive note, installation is done and me thinks it must now be pressure profiling playtime
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I think you jinxed the Slayer Trent #failtoproceed (one of a pair which are both currently boat anchorsOriginally posted by trentski View PostSounds like you're relying on some swish gadgets to compensate for poor technique. I'll swap you my gpp and k3 for your slayer and k10 for a few years to help you get back to your roots.
I'm waiting outside.
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Good to have toys though...I now have a loaner Vesuvius and E10 at home...
On a positive note, installation is done and me thinks it must now be pressure profiling playtime
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Sounds like you're relying on some swish gadgets to compensate for poor technique. I'll swap you my gpp and k3 for your slayer and k10 for a few years to help you get back to your roots.Originally posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
At home I now have a custom build Slayer 1gr and a Compak E10...and a few other toys...
I'm waiting outside.
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Thanks for the welcome Yelta,Originally posted by Yelta View PostWelcome to Coffee Snobs 2mcm always a pleasure to welcome a newbie, tell us a bit about yourself.

I'm just a bloke who started many years ago with a stovetop, then a plunger and then a Rancilio Audrey accompanied by Mocopan preground or a bag of stale supermarket...Never liked instant.
My uncle was one of the founders of Mocopan back in the 1950's and I blame him (and Andy) for the $1k+ bill for the December BeanBay Geisha which proved irresistible.
At home I now have a custom build Slayer 1gr and a Compak E10...and a few other toys...
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We'll have a new machine for the demo bench in a few weeks John...
Just need space- and stock!
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hmmm, may have to drop in and have a play when i have some free time Chris
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Hi John,
I'm lefty too, but you like me in fact use the machine right handed- as most do...
Having done a wand swap on my old R58 to use with flick steam (straight rather than angled handles), I haven't done one on the Slayer. The big difference is that the angled handles on the valves actually makes it intuitive. I stand in front of the wand and honestly haven't noticed any inconvenience whatsoever...
Wand swap- no problem. Rick can make that happen- but I'd doubt you will need it...
One you use one, you'll get it!
Chris
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indeed it is a beautiful machine and have been thinking about one myself, along with a couple others, However i see a slight issue been a lefty and steaming milk.
i hold the milk pitcher in my left hand and turn the tap with my right on my r58 and previous machines, with the slayer, i would have to reach around to pul the lever with my right hand which i think will be awkward. Can they be ordered with the steam wand on the right hand side?
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