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  • #31
    Interesting design piece

    Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    .........I have yet to see a lever of this style which works well from a tank and the massive amount of work .......
    Really?

    I guess the few Levers (One with this same Astoria based group) I have running very happily and simply from external tanks and internal or external pumps must be special then. One of those is soon to go to an internal tank to go with the fitted pump to make it more simple again for outside jobs. Apart from the Tank and Pump a few simple hoses and fittings and a little careful (240V) wiring is all that is needed.

    If like most of the modern machines the lever has an Auto fill fitted then it is actually a simple matter to parallel wire the Pump in with where the inlet water solenoid is. Contact ratings on the Auto fills I have are all more than up to running a small pump. This pump only needs to be 2-3 bar capable so while a procon or similar will do it they are really overkill for the job.

    Without seeing under the hood I suspect it may not be a HX design in the sense of some pumped machines and will share more in common with my Fiorenzato Lever. That is boiler water is fed back through a sealed tube through the boiler and into the head rather than a dipper tube like some other groups.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jimmytheboot View Post
      Thats one super shiny snowmobile
      Sure is!

      Dimensions attached for those who are following the thread.
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      • #33
        Very funky design!

        Makes me wonder what the ergonomics of it will be like?
        I had initial concern about the proximity of the handles to the boiler (ouch!) but maybe it has a double (insulated?) skin?

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        • #34
          Hi Andy,

          Agreed. I have those concerns as well.

          I guess nobody will really know until it sees daylight at HOST, but I'll report back.

          The boiler- yes it is inside the SS skin
          Last edited by TC; 31 July 2013, 08:50 AM. Reason: further info

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          • #35
            Any updates to this thread or the hint of new bling??

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pretzal View Post
              Any updates to this thread or the hint of new bling??
              Hi Pretzal,

              I regret we won't have anything to add now until after HOST in October.

              I understand the furst build will be just 14 machines. I have placed our name on one.

              Cheers

              Chris

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              • #37
                Thanks for the info Chris.

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                • #38
                  wow -- design plus -- great to see some innovation in the domestic machine market.

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                  • #39
                    Orders are now open for La Vela. We are hoping to receive our first stocks prior to Christmas.

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                    Details of the machine:
                    • Hand made body of 304 stainless steel
                    • 5 litre stainless boiler- double insulated
                    • 2000W element
                    • Boiler cleaning waste gate
                    • Standard kit: 1x double portafilter, 1x single portafilter, 1x naked, 3x steam tips, tamper, instruction book.
                    • The machine ships in a solid. foldable wooden crate.

                    50% deposit on order and any early adopters who would like to place an order prior to October 10 will receive their machine at our wholesale price.

                    Contact me for further details.

                    Chris

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                    • #40
                      Hi Chris,

                      In your specs you refer to the boiler as "double insulated"....

                      Can you clarify if you are referring to this being electrically 'double insulated'... (Which for those unaware- is about electrical safety- *nothing* to do with keeping the boiler hot/handles cool)
                      As I expect you were saying because otherwise the numbers simply don't add up.

                      At 420mm maximum width the internal measurement of the boiler needs to be a shade over 250mm to give you a volume capacity of 5 litres- as per the specs.
                      BTW isn't a 5 litre boiler 'enormous' for even a high end prosumer machine?

                      Measuring off the schematic the boiler is only just 250 mm dia- which fits with the specs... But this implies an un-insulated 5- litre exposed boiler. That's gotta throw off an awful lot of heat, doesn't it? Dunno, just trying to get a feel for how it might work? Or not? If you have this on standby, all day- it's gonna heat the room up and/or chew the power at a high rate- seems terribly inefficient. Or am I missing /misunderstanding something? OTOH, starting this machine from cold- to boil a whole 5 litres to get one cup of coffee? How does that work?

                      Cheers,
                      OG
                      Last edited by Ol_Grumpy; 28 September 2013, 05:45 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Hi OG,

                        No- the boiler effectively has a twin skin delivering no more than 40 deg C at the surface. Hope that clarifies things. Some have also asked HX or dipper. It's a dipper design sans pump :-)

                        I have pics, but not the ok to release them as yet

                        Cheers

                        Chris

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ol_Grumpy View Post
                          BTW isn't a 5 litre boiler 'enormous' for even a high end prosumer machine?

                          OG
                          On the high side of large, but not enormous .... The Elektra 60s has a 6 litre

                          Chris, do you have any details on expected price ? I am considering a lever machine (plus a few others) ...

                          Thanks
                          BeanB

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BeanBrat View Post
                            On the high side of large, but not enormous .... The Elektra 60s has a 6 litre

                            Chris, do you have any details on expected price ? I am considering a lever machine (plus a few others) ...

                            Thanks
                            BeanB
                            Sure thing B_B. Email is best at this stage and I can provide early adopter pricing for you.

                            Chris

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                            • #44
                              La Vela has been renamed Ventus- latin for wind....

                              Seems another company had dibs on La Vela....
                              Last edited by TC; 6 October 2013, 12:16 PM. Reason: translation goof ::-)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
                                La Vela has been renamed Ventus- latin for sail....

                                Seems another company had dibs on La Vela....
                                Hello just to clarify, before to choose a name we have checked someone with the same name in the trade marks registry and none was found. In the last few days we have received a letter from a lawyer that wrote on behalf of Wega were they said that they already use this name on one of their machine (i don't know why). Well they have this model since 2007 more or less and they have registered this name only on 27 September 2013. First of all we do not have any help in promoting our machines using a brands or names of someone else. My family is involved in a coffee machine market since 1950 and honestly there are no reason for us to copy someone especially Wega that is not so common for us. Choose a name is not so simple due of a huge variety of machines and companies on the market. I hope that "Ventus" will be apreciate (it's wind in latin).
                                In any case me and Antonio are flattered that someone has moved they interest for us before that we start....
                                Have a nice day to everybody.

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