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  • #31
    looks like a fantastic machine; beautifully built like the izzo duetto.

    i love the idea of the shot timer in the pid: i have a timer velcroed to the wall to time my shots - this would solve that.

    i dont think i can justify a changeover from the izzo just for a timer.

    how do they compare $ wise; is there much in it?

    Originally posted by nzcoffeetech View Post
    Heres a great youtube video with an overview of the 700 , amazing machines

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTLp2hQowG8

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    • #32
      Profitec Pro 700

      Ok got mine and very impressed so far. Lots of nice stainless steel and the workmanship is fantastic.

      I have the newer design with the plumbable driptray, so it must be fresh off the boat.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by herzog View Post
        Ok got mine and very impressed so far. Lots of nice stainless steel and the workmanship is fantastic.

        I have the newer design with the plumbable driptray, so it must be fresh off the boat.
        Hi Herzog. Would you mind posting a photo of the drip tray? Does it come with a hole?

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        • #34
          Comes with a hole which is sealed off with a bolt and washer. There's a little kit with tubing etc in the box for plumbing the drip tray.

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          • #35
            I've had mine a couple of weeks now and thought I'd check back in with some feedback.

            As background to buying the machine, I've been running an Elektra SA for about 5 years and have been looking to update to a double boiler machine. My main use is Espressos and Americanos for me, Caps for the Mrs, and "fluffy milk" for the (young) kids, plus whatever guests want.

            The machines under consideration were the GS/3, Controvento, Vesuvius and the Profitec.

            Three of the machines got ruled out:

            GS/3 - too ugly, Mrs didn't want it in the kitchen (LOL)
            Controvento - too expensive
            Vesuvius - was close on this one. Intriguing machine, but ultimately the programmability wasn't for me. I'm more of a set-and-forget user, rather than fartarseing around with settings all day.

            So two weeks on and the Profitec has more than met expectations.

            The ease of use factor is very high. As long as your grind is ok, its very hard to pull a bad shot on this machine. The shot timer is a great feature, and I'm surprised it's not more common, as it's a total no brainer. Also great is the extra riser for the drip tray. This allows you to get espresso cups closer to the spouts, while still offering clearance for larger cups.

            Steaming is also very straightforward and hard to get wrong. It's a little too powerful for the smallest jugs, but ideal for medium or larger milk jugs

            I've got the boilers running at 94 and 125C for the moment and that seems to be working for me.

            It looks good on the bench. The styling is plain, but it has presence - bit of a Germanic "utilitarian" thing going on. It looks like it was cut from a block of solid gleaming stainless steel.

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            • #36
              Hi CS's

              I am new here and am currently thinking of getting a new machine. I started off looking at the Giotto Evoluzione V2 and the Vibiemme Super Lever 2. At that time I was pretty sure that I will buy one of these two machines. However, at the weekend I went to Jetblack and had a look at some of their display... Now I moved away from those machines and am looking at the R58 and the Proiftec Pro 700. When reading all the posts about these machines, I come to the conclusion that both machines seems to be extremely good and that it basically comes down to personal preference.

              Would you coffee lovers agree to that, or are there any major issues with one or the other?

              I currently have a Kitchenaid Artisan. It makes ok-ish Espressos, however, the steaming of the machine is less than great imo.

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              • #37
                Profitec Pro 700

                I looked at both, as they are similar machines and close in price.

                Two factors swung it to the Profitec - build quality (including stainless steel internals), and the internal PID with shotclock.

                Have a look at the teardown videos on YouTube. Really nice engineering.

                Also, isn't the KitchenAid a mixmaster type thing??
                Last edited by herzog; 6 November 2014, 01:26 PM.

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                • #38
                  Welcome Muchito,

                  My opinion- both great machines and if well maintained you should have a terrific user experience.

                  After weighing up the pros and cons, you really can choose whichever one best ticks your boxes.

                  You may also wish to consider the Alex Duetto- also excellent.

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                  • #39
                    You may also wish to consider the Alex Duetto- also excellent.[/QUOTE]

                    I did look at the Duetto III as well, however, I must admit that I prefer the looks of both the R58 and the Pro 700.

                    What would you consider the better way to refill the machines (I won't be able to plumb)? I am not sure how annoying it will be to always take the cups of the cup warmer when refilling the R58. Being able to lift the complete cup warmer seems to be the more convenient... I'd be very interested of the view of others here.

                    Thanks again for all your help... I really like this forum

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                    • #40
                      I have the Profitec and don't mind taking the tray off to fill... I generally don't have many cups on top but do keep my PF and second filter basket on top.

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                      • #41
                        i had the giotto for 10 years and no issues with filling it up with water, now with the r58 again no issues at all, as its only 1 row of cups.
                        On a normal day though, there would not be much need to be filling it up too often.
                        Empty out every night, fill with fresh water in the morning and that should be plenty for a days worth with just myself and the wife.

                        At the end of the day either machine will treat you well, comes down to personal preference.

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                        • #42
                          Thanks for the good feedback. This makes a decision a lot easier

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                          • #43
                            Ok... After a few weeks of traveling and lots of thinking about the best set-up, I went back to Jetblack again today. Resulting in the purchase of a Pro700 and the ECM grinder. Set-up of both was easy and the first coffee was much better than with the old machine.

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                            • #44
                              Hi all
                              I am new to this forum and actually registered to tell a story:
                              I was a defiant non-coffee non-tea drinker for 40odd years until I migrated to the Northern Rivers of NSW and noticed that the region produces its own variety of coffee beans... tried ... bought a Rancilio Silvia with a Rocky from a local and spent 6 years of happy low-end 2 per day coffee drinking up until Christmas 2014 when my wife and I decided to upgrade the kitchen... and I decided to upgrade the coffee machine.
                              Short research of a non-pro, some pics, a video or two and I landed by Charlie @ at Jetblack again because he has been my reference for all technical issues with the Silvia. And when he said that the Profitec is sitting on his home bench I splurged into it without even looking further.
                              The story begins here. It was meant to be a Christmas present and was sent with some purposeful delay towards the end of November. Hunter express kept its where abouts secret as usual until it appeared at the doorstep sitting on a small skid, nicely packed by the team of Jetblack. I was excited as a child, opened the box, put it on my still old kitchen bench and the whole room started shining - wow, never seen a thing like that before. Excellent is an understatement. Read through the instructions quickly, poured water into the tank (it was meant to be plumbed in later) and switched on. I wondered a bit why the top cup holder was bent nicely inwards but it was so symmetrical that I didn't look further. Machine was so quiet, went hot quickly, i decided to test with a shot of my organic Ewingsdale coffee. From the K3 touch straight in - bingo! Never seen a mouse tail before... Amazing taste, the luck of the beginner. Then I wondered again, why is the water tank broken. And then, only after that I started looking a bit more critically ... and noticed that the whole thing was bent and the left panel was ripped off the screws but still holding... and I inspected the box and it was damaged on one corner and... The machine obviously suffered a severe transport damage - must have rolled and fallen hard on one edge, enough to bend the steel of the cupholder, and the top and to break off the edge of the water tank.
                              I saw my Christmas present plan falling apart (luckily I was alone and no one could see my mood). Indeed, the machine was working - despite the 37 kg box rolling through the truck and hitting corners. Well, I was on the phone the next instant.
                              Debbie sighed as she saw the photos ... and I must say she and the team of Jetblack immediately accepted that I need a new machine sent without any discussions.
                              Two strenuous weeks later, waiting for deliveries, inspections, discussing transport and packaging options and the second Pro700 appeared at my door again, this time to stay. My wife and I had two coffee free weeks... with a shiny Christmas in the end.
                              Kudos to Jetblack for the stress management and for the unproblematic solutions.

                              Now, 2 weeks later I have changed the whole coffee making process: I started using a pocket scale to measure intitially 15, then 17, and now I am at 18 g steady of beans. I took off the hood of the K3 touch grinder and pour the 18 g straight into the grinder's hole, cover it with my hand and grind QUETLY, ... and it works EVERYTIME.
                              I am a happy user and still learner. But I must admit I never knew that espresso can taste so sweet!
                              Thank you Jetblack!

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                              • #45
                                Welcome to CS te4o and thankyou for the kind words. May the *new* Pro 700 continue to deliver sweet espresso,

                                charlie

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