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  • Vesuvius #17- 4 months on

    I can thank my dearly and recently-departed brother Rob for this one! Whilst in life he always supported my coffee fetishes and experimentation....he always angered when I lashed out and bought a new machine. It's the way he was....we joked about it.

    Anyway, his untimely death lead to some money left over from his funeral fund. He would "roll in his grave" to know that I had bought another machine with his leftover funeral money....but I smile and think of him whenever I use this amazing machine.....it was a tribute to him that I bought it. It is a way that I am reminded of the spirit of this amazing man living on...


    I wanted to get one of these when I first read Chris at Talk Coffee mentioning it on Coffeesnobs. Chris and I shared many e-mails. I NEARLY got one of the early-adopter ones from Chris but for one reason or another didn't go through with it. There were a few hiccups with production and many, many questions from me to:-
    Paolo Cortese (the designer and developer) from Ambient Espresso....the Vesuvius is his baby....Ciao Paolo!,
    Dave Corby (the English developer who is also a CS member),
    Chris Natoli from Talk Coffee and
    Pedro Lara from Coffeeparts.

    I want to thank each and every one of these fine men for their patience, dedication and experience....and for the many e-mails of mine that they each replied to with their insights.... until I felt satisfied that my brother's $$ would be well-invested in this machine.

    Whilst I would have liked to support Chris from Talk Coffee and have a test-drive of the Vesuvius in Melbourne, I live near Sydney (2 hrs away).... and Coffeeparts was the practical choice for taking a demo model for a spin.

    Pedro from Coffeeparts has always been free with his time and support. I have bought machines from him before and have always been well-taken care of. It has always been "Take a sickie and a leisurely drive to Sydney and bring back something amazing!" This time it was no different.

    After entering-in Dave Corby's settings on Pedro's demo machine, I pulled some amazing shots straight off. I thought "This Vesuvius is sorely tempting!" and Pedro's demo machine was in fine company....a single group Slayer on one side and a paddle LM GS3 and a Speedster on the other!

    After familiarizing myself with the Vesuvius, I knew that I couldn't go home without one of Coffeeparts' new arrivals. To me it offers all that the Speedster, GS3 and Slayer do....and more. It is a handbuilt, beautiful piece of Italian craftsmanship.

    I was treated like royalty at Coffeeparts....it's always great to catch up with Pedro and Cilinia. Mine is machine #17 off the production line. I took #17 to my sister's house and set it up for its first shot. Amazing! My 91 year old mum took the honours of moving the lever for shot #1. Monsooned Malabar to die for! My sister told said "WOW!!! THAT'S THE BEST COFFEE I HAVE EVER HAD!" and yes, she was just about shouting! Many coffees were consumed that night my friends.....

    The next day I pulled some more shots before heading north with my new baby.

    I have had #17 for just over 3 months now and it is producing absolutely stellar shots day after day....that are improving subtley as I continue to master it. I tend to use 3 or 4 single origins only that I home-roast. I swap back to other machines for a comparison every now and then....LM Linea, Caravel, Cremina,Brugnetti Aurora and QM Achille. They all make magic...but the Vesuvius is something else again.

    I tend to use the one profile but tweak it a bit here and there to get the very best out of the SO that I am using. The other day I extended the 2Bar pre-infusion that I have set in Profile #1 by 2 seconds.... and the 2nd part of the extraction of 11Bar by 2 seconds as well. It made a noticeable difference in the cup. AMAZING versatility and repeatability! I have experimented with the temperature, which is in 0.5C increments. It is fabulous to be able to have absolute control of temperature and pressure parameters in such a repeatable way.

    I love all of my machines but this one is that much more special than the others. It is the one that I go to first. It gets 80% of the use in my home. It is also the only machine that I have had that I didn't feel the need to modify in some way. As testament to this, I haven't even felt tempted to remove any panels and check things out. It has all worked flawlessly straight out of the ingeniously-designed wooden crate that it came in. I wanted to start a thread on Coffeesnobs earlier but wanted to make sure that it wasn't the smitten honeymoon stage talking in me. It took many comparisons with other fine machinery with the same beans for me to realize what a winner the Vesuvius is....kudos to all involved in its evolution!

    I am looking forward to the journey that this machine's adjustability and repeatability will allow me to traverse.

    I am sure that my brother Rob would have approved if he was able to sample the spoils!
    Last edited by Paolo; 21 November 2014, 02:06 PM. Reason: Grammar

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    Nice story Paolo. I'm sure your bro would have approved especially if it out-delivers some of the other classic equipment you listed.

    So when are you putting the others on the market. It sounds like they might be a bit under-utilised

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    • #3
      I forgot this one

      Now THAT'S a good question! They all get used...and as I said, "I love all of my machines"!

      (Just remembered that I have a really lightly-used and almost immaculate 240 volt 1987 Cremina that I will list for sale one day....)
      Last edited by Paolo; 21 November 2014, 02:01 PM. Reason: afterthought

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      • #4
        Thanks for the kind words Paolo and it's great to see you're having fun with your Vesuvius.

        Our experiences mirror yours. Our clients have been blown away by what it can do and my tech absolutely loves what he sees inside as well.

        This one really is genius. It's definitely as special as a Strada EP in what it can achieve in the cup, but a whole heap easier to drive. There is no machine on the market which can do what a Vesuvius can do.

        We have one (demo) remaining for a lucky local and then it's backorders with an ETA of around February.

        Chris

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        • #5
          what a great story and yep think your brother would have approved.

          Congrats on what is no doubt an absolutely stunning machine. Having seen it at Talk coffee, even my wife commented on it and asked if i were purchasing that one

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          • #6
            Great story and totally threw me off the R58 bandwagon. Think I’ll hold on to my anita now, save up a WHOLE heap more than get the Vesuvius, seems like the prosumer machine for the ages

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            • #7
              Paolo, that's a great story. Sounds like an awesome machine. I remember seeing a photo of your house in the Olympia Cremina thread once and I almost fell off my chair. The thread was about the Cremina and in the background was a 'humble' LM Linea and Robur from memory! You truly deserve the title 'coffeesnob'. May you enjoy ALL your toys for many years to come - life is too short.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bennett View Post
                Paolo, that's a great story. Sounds like an awesome machine. I remember seeing a photo of your house in the Olympia Cremina thread once and I almost fell off my chair. The thread was about the Cremina and in the background was a 'humble' LM Linea and Robur from memory! You truly deserve the title 'coffeesnob'. May you enjoy ALL your toys for many years to come - life is too short.
                Hi Bennett....Thanks so much for your sentiment...I truly appreciate it. I agree completely! And I DO enjoy them all.

                For the life of me, I can't remember the picture of the Cremina, Robur and Linea that you mentioned....but you are right about the Robur.

                I DO remember, however, taking a picture of the 3 Creminas that I owned at the time....a 1967 model, the 1987 model (mentioned above) and a 2011 one that I bought new. With a bit of a spit and polish they were posed in a line and photographed. I had the photo blown up and framed...looks GREAT!


                Yep....proud to be a Coffeesnob....I consider myself incredibly fortunate in having such a supportive partner!

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                • #9
                  Hi Paolo, the photo is somewhere in this thread. 1987 Olympia Cremina and tucked in behind it - just in view LM Linea and off to the side Robur.

                  http://coffeesnobs.com.au/brewing-eq...so-secret.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bennett View Post
                    Hi Paolo, the photo is somewhere in this thread. 1987 Olympia Cremina and tucked in behind it - just in view LM Linea and off to the side Robur.

                    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/brewing-eq...so-secret.html
                    Thanks for that, Bennett! It all comes back to me now....

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                    • #11
                      Dear Paolo
                      first of all thanks for your kind words about our machine and support.
                      your story is absolutely speechless for me due of your trust in us.
                      i hope that you will enjoy our machine for a very long time.
                      thanks
                      Paolo Cortese

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PaoloCortese View Post
                        Dear Paolo
                        first of all thanks for your kind words about our machine and support.
                        your story is absolutely speechless for me due of your trust in us.
                        i hope that you will enjoy our machine for a very long time.
                        thanks
                        Paolo Cortese
                        Many thanks, Paolo!
                        I am absolutely in awe of you and Ambient &spresso....firstly in having the vision of a domestic programmable pressure-profiling machine of this calibre and then having the passion, patience and skills in turning the vision into a reality with such a groundbreaking yet user-friendly machine. I tip my hat to you...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bennett View Post
                          Hi Paolo, the photo is somewhere in this thread. 1987 Olympia Cremina and tucked in behind it - just in view LM Linea and off to the side Robur.
                          Here it is. I'll be on the lookout for this beauty if Paolo finds it in himself to part with it.

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                          • #14
                            Yes sir....that's my baby!
                            Have sent you a PM if you are interested in becoming its new Daddy!

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                            • #15
                              Hi Paolo, thanks for the review. The Vesuvius has been on my radar since Chris announced it earlier this year. How do you find the temperature stability?

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