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  • Is a gs/3 for life?

    My trusty breville is starting to show signs of death only after a few years. Upgradeitis is well and truly taking hold. I think i have my eyes set on the gs/3 but would like to know if i could reasonably expect it to last for 10+ years with proper maintenance? Will be pulling 2-3 shots a day + more on weekends.

    I am in the process of looking for a new house at the moment so probably won't be pluming it in for a little while. I have heard it can be annoying to refill the tank, how annoying?

  • #2
    Haha yes, It should last you 20 years atleast. Yes, servicing will be needed through that time.

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    • #3
      Ah, well ...maybe, but....actually, nah...not really.

      Look, there are enough experienced professional service techs that will tell you they see enough 20 year old machines that are still alive and running, but make absolute rubbish product or are just dogs to use in terms of the overall operator experience. Even many 10 year old machines fall into the same category.

      And I've repaired enough old machines for owners with an emotional attachment, that should have been thrown into the bottom of the harbour regardless that they were still operating.

      Its one thing to own a 1964 Cadillac and bring it out once a month for a "club" run down to the local, and another thing to use it on a daily basis to commute, and I dont see why a GS 3 should be any different to any other brand/model in that regard.

      Realistically, and certainly this is only my opinion tempered from my own experiences, if I had to put an *arbitrary* or "average" figure on the life of a semi commercial machine in terms of its *best* years, I'd say around 5.

      Subject of course to the individual owner's management and operational skills (ie level of care) for any individual machine. Some people are simply much harder on their equipment than others...

      There is nothing beats an upgrade to a brand new machine after a few years, even if it is a similar model to the one being upgraded. Everything feels better, tighter etc etc etc.

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      • #4
        I dont think it is annoying to fill the tank. Slide out the drip tray, slide out the resovoir, add water.
        Much better some other the machines where you have to remove the cups. You could always buy a small pump and run it from a bottle but if it is only temporary I would not bother.

        Btw. From what I heard the price is due to increase next month. I am sure a site sponsor or someone in the industry can confirm.

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        • #5
          I doubt a price increase will happen or last for long if it does. You can't put the price up on something as the consumer knows it's only worth x amount (Generally the lowest price it can be had for) Products depreciate in value not increase

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          • #6
            Originally posted by neofelis View Post
            I doubt a price increase will happen or last for long if it does. You can't put the price up on something as the consumer knows it's only worth x amount (Generally the lowest price it can be had for) Products depreciate in value not increase
            Oh really? I'll call bollocks on that one here and now.

            I can assure you that LM Australia will likely have a different opinion to you.

            LM carry the lowest reseller margin in the market and I sometimes wonder why we bother selling the brand at all! If LM's price goes up, you are guaranteed that street prices will move accordingly.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by neofelis View Post
              I doubt a price increase will happen or last for long if it does. You can't put the price up on something as the consumer knows it's only worth x amount (Generally the lowest price it can be had for) Products depreciate in value not increase
              Looks like we must have gone to different business schools then. Shall I toss my MBA in the bin or...?
              Oh... and how is your side job as Joe Hockey's economic advisor going?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by neofelis View Post
                I doubt a price increase will happen or last for long if it does. You can't put the price up on something as the consumer knows it's only worth x amount (Generally the lowest price it can be had for) Products depreciate in value not increase
                Not that I wish to jump on the rumble pile, Neofelis me old mucker, but I think you might be forgetting the 'supply' side of 'supply and demand'.

                Have a good one.

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                • #9
                  I stand corrected!

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                  • #10
                    Two answers on topic. A yes and a no. Put the answer some where in the middle and go for a maybe?
                    From what i can gather a gs/3 is a bit of a talking piece but i could get similar results in the 4k price range. So was curious if there was longevity in the extra money or if its just the LM brand at this point(which is a big selling point). As for a price increase i hope that comes with the ability to customise it like with the US ones!

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                    • #11
                      Hello Jared.

                      My GS/3 is one of the first LM paddle versions produced. It's well over 5 years old and performs just as well as the day I purchased it.

                      Like any other non-appliance espresso machine, if you do your bit on hygiene, water quality and service, you should expect a long life from it.

                      Customisation? You bet. I have a beautiful set of wenge side panels which I am going to sell soon. Time for the next look...

                      Cheers

                      Chris

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
                        Hello Jared.

                        My GS/3 is one of the first LM paddle versions produced. It's well over 5 years old and performs just as well as the day I purchased it.

                        Like any other non-appliance espresso machine, if you do your bit on hygiene, water quality and service, you should expect a long life from it.

                        Customisation? You bet. I have a beautiful set of wenge side panels which I am going to sell soon. Time for the next look...

                        Cheers

                        Chris
                        What has the cost of services been in that lifetime? Have you had to go with out your machine at any point in time?
                        Ah i was thinking something more akin to Custom GS3 | La Marzocco Where you can customise to order.

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                        • #13
                          Hi Jared.

                          I find I never get quite a year from the paddle o-rings so you can assume that these and the group seal are routine service (factor an hour).

                          In addition, we have done the anti-vac and something else which was relatively minor. There was a leak which drowned the control board, but it luckily survived.

                          Other than these issues and the usual lubrication- plain sailing.

                          Customisation- timber everything is available in Australia and is way better too. LM glass panels? Better consult your financier. I enquired and a set was well into four figures. I'm sure you could do your own on a much lower spend.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
                            Hi Jared.

                            I find I never get quite a year from the paddle o-rings so you can assume that these and the group seal are routine service (factor an hour).

                            In addition, we have done the anti-vac and something else which was relatively minor. There was a leak which drowned the control board, but it luckily survived.

                            Other than these issues and the usual lubrication- plain sailing.

                            Customisation- timber everything is available in Australia and is way better too. LM glass panels? Better consult your financier. I enquired and a set was well into four figures. I'm sure you could do your own on a much lower spend.
                            That seems relatively easy. As long as i don't have to send away to get them fixed. Happy to tinker.

                            Was hoping for just the solid black all around. Do you know if thats possible?

                            Finally, going to be down in Melbourne next month do you by have one in your store i could play with?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jaredw View Post
                              That seems relatively easy. As long as i don't have to send away to get them fixed. Happy to tinker.

                              Was hoping for just the solid black all around. Do you know if thats possible?
                              Yes- black can be done- demo not at this stage but doable- email me.

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