ECM Synchronika

[FilthySudo]

Has anyone ever looked into powder coating the front panel of their machine? The 25th anniversary sync got released less than a month after I purchased my sync v3, but with the hefty 1.2k more than the standard I was glad it was that price. Just curious how hard it would be to do, as group head, valves would need to be removed, and unsure how hard the pid, guages and all that are to take out for it to get coated

[amberale]

If you are competent enough to change the spark plugs in your car or the tyres on your bicycle then you should be able to do it.
If you have trouble changing a tap washer then “move away from the espresso machine”.

[FilthySudo]

Ha, thanks. I was kind of asking if all the parts on the front are easily removeable, as in I won’t have to pry to get bits off in order to send the panel in to get painted. I’ll try get a quote before attempting it anyways

[flynnaus]

Has anyone ever looked into powder coating the front panel of their machine?

No but you could just paint/powder coat the side panels and leave the front panel in stainless steel. Looks pretty good I think and a lot less hassle.

https://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/...ka-anthracite?

[FilthySudo]

Yeah I’d love to do the side but the front is the part I really see! The anthracite model wasn’t available when I bought my unit, so I would love to get the front done too

[Ronin]

FilthySudo Is it still under warranty?
I’d be reluctant to pull it apart like that if it is.
also consider that powder coating will eventually be eaten by the acids in espresso and cleaning products.

[Ronin]

Yeah I’ve seen some massive failures from respected after market companies that should know better

[Caffeinator]

All comes down to quality of prep and finish and how the end user cares for the machine. I have seen both stainless and powdercoated which look new after five years and then there are some that look 20YO ofter 12 months. Some just don't look after their stuff.

OP- you could also look into cerakote. Far more robust than powdercoat.

[FilthySudo]

Yes warranty, maybe I’ll just stick to getting the sides done! And thanks for that caffeinator, I totally didn’t consider ceratoke

[SirRedNob]

Loving my new machine. Grinder isn't on the same level but I have aligned the burrs and it does OK. Have the Forte parts to install when I get a chance.

[Stinger]

If maintained equally would the anthracite panels last longer than the chrome ones? I’ve been looking for a machine and reckon I’ve narrowed it down to the ECM Synchronika but I’m not sure if I should pay extra for the 25th anniversary or not. If it’s going to last longer and easier to maintain I think I can justify it.

[FilthySudo]

Well the 25th edition also comes with all the wood accents, if you were to buy them separate you’d be paying more than 600 or so for them. And then if you were to powder coat all panels. The plus is that the front is powder coated rather than stainless. I would have much preferred this but obviously you have to justify the cost to outweigh it. The powder coating should last fine, you won’t see scratches, but it could wear over time with heavy use and if it got abused. If you look after it, it will be just as good as stainless

[FilthySudo]

Does anyone know the colour code for the anthracite powder coat on the machines? I don’t feel like taking my whole 40kg beast into the shop with me just to match the colour. If I can’t get a code I’ll have to

[FilthySudo]

Not when the panels are all stainless… I want to powder coat it. Painful to take the whole machine in to show them the base of it to match the colour rather just have a code to cross correlate with

[Mono]

Hey FS, they will have colour samples that you can bring home to try, just like colour-bond colours…

[FilthySudo]

Ended up taking the machine in. Matched the colour to what seemed to be the closest( I can’t remember the name now! I’m getting the 3 panels and the drip tray done( all 3 bits to the drip tray) I’ll post photos in this chat when I get them back. Week to week and a half turnaround they told me

[FilthySudo]

I forgot to post this up in my excitement when I received the panels and drip tray back! I had the side panels and back panel powdercoated including the drip tray parts. They were done with sable bass textured which is what their paint code was, and from a distance you can’t tell the difference between the anthracite base , up close it may be slightly off colour but not noticeable at all because most of the machine is now the same colour. I really love how well they all turned out and how much of a change it made to the aesthetics of the machine. In terms of longevity of the coating lasting on the drip tray, only time will tell. I never keep the water in the tray for longer than a week as they said it’s not suitable for objects that are submerged all the time. Anyways, thought I’d show you all!

[Ronin]

Looking slick mate
Some walnut would set that off beautifully

[FilthySudo]

Tell me about it! I will get some down the track eventually!

[SirRedNob]

Looks great. How’s the finish compared to the original bits?

[FilthySudo]

Finish as in, in comparison to the anthracite powdercoated base? If that, then it’s textured but it’s not as textured as the original, still finished really well with minimal random bumps sticking out. If you mean compared to the original panels, then it’s slightly thicker, with a textured finish but still fairly smooth. I preferred not having to clean stainless and maintain the shine as im ocd, but also swirl marks and scratches would be more noticeable on the stainless. I considered the front panel done too but didn’t want to fuss around with pulling the whole front bits off and be without a machine for the week

[amberale]

It came up very, very nice.

[FilthySudo]

Why Thankyou! I thought as much too

[Matchie1983]

Hi guys, just installed the ecm flow regulator, but pressure gauge is not working? Anyone else have this issue?

[Ronin]

The one for the e61 group or the stock one?

[Matchie1983]

The e61 one I believe Ronan, you change some spring is said?

[kofekitt]

The group mounted gauge will not show pressure unless making coffe or with blind filter. Under free flow, it will show zero . Have you tested with blind filter?

[Matchie1983]

Oh right no I haven’t I will try that.. thanks

[Matchie1983]

Yes you are right thanks so much, pressure gauge is working..

[Matchie1983]

Now the water flow with the flow regulator seems to be more than before not sure how this can be..