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Wouldn't the sensor be much closer than that if mounted inside the body of the machine? That looks to be about the length of the machine away, surely you'd mount it within a cm or two of the front panel?
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It was only that he specifically said he had it at the distance it would be when built into the machine...Originally posted by Dimal View PostShouldn't make that much difference to honest, since the IR sensor is sensitive to light bandwidth, not radiated thermal energy...
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True enough. I put the IR meter as close as I could to the coffee cart, given that it was mounted on a tripod. You're right that it'd be another 50% closer if it were in the machine itself.Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
However, this new measurement was about 80% closer than the previous placement of the IR meter, which was to the right of the table. And I got similar numbers.
So, as @dimal notes, it doesn't seem that distance from the IR to the milk jug, matters that much.
Now... what would matter, is if someone were holding the milk jug on the back, and blocking the IR from seeing the jug. Gotta think about that a bit...
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DE1XL in a Decent Suitcase
DE1XL in a Decent Suitcase
We are working on making the DE1XL fit nicely inside our suitcase. We've done a design for the foam, and we are ordering samples to test. I think we can make this work. If any of you have a DE1XL and want the foam, let me know. When it is ready, I will send it to you for free.
My goal is to make the DE1XL model as portable as the DE1+/DE1PRO models.
Also, once we have accomplished this, we will be making DE1XL models in our factory, and shipping them ready made. You will no longer receive a "DE1XL conversion kit" from, and you won't need to convert your DE1PRO by yourself.
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Little and Simple
Two couples opened up their own cafes recently, with Decent Espresso Machines.
As Olivia writes https://www.instagram.com/p/B5svqoTll5i/ it’s still early days for Decent Espresso and commercial use situations. By my count, there are perhaps only 30 cafes worldwide, putting the Decent in front of customers. There are another 400 machines in the back rooms of cafes and roasteries. They’re used for catering, training, extra capacity or most frequently: just to learn about what they think the future likely will look like. But not many facing customers. Yet.
Olivia did her homework, called up every Decent Cafe she could find, before trusting her dream cafe to a small (but Decent) espresso machine company.
For me, working hand in hand with small owners is incredibly rewarding. Our story (Bugs and I) is much the same: build something from zero, with just our own money (and a bit of help from Mum) and years of hard work and lots of risk.
The attributes of our machine: small, very good drink quality, low cost (half per group head of competing commercial machines), the fact that you can start with 1 machine and add more as you grow, and of course: 1:1 relationship with us, fit well with the needs of small cafes.
Simple Coffee Co is in Tabernash, Colorado, USA:
https://www.instagram.com/simplecoffeeco/
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Josiah and Noel opened their Little Light Coffee this week. They built it themselves, with quite a bit of help from their friends. Before opening, they had run a coffee stand at the local outdoor market.
Little Light Coffee is in Takasaki, Japan:
https://www.instagram.com/littlelightcoffee/
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A quick tour of the Decent Coffee Cart
I've been working on a web page, with everything about my "convert an IKEA BROR cart into a coffee cart" project, and it's up now:
https://decentespresso.com/coffeecart
and made a video today showing the cart I have at home:
I've ordered 10 replacement tabletops to be made, and will be selling them at cost to folks, to see if this idea has legs.
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that Bror cart is brilliant so much so it made me get one! Thanks for these posts John, one day I hope to have a DE machine on mine!!
If I can stop collecting machines an grinders long enough
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Great!Originally posted by Sullo View Postthat Bror cart is brilliant so much so it made me get one! Thanks for these posts John, one day I hope to have a DE machine on mine!!
If I can stop collecting machines an grinders long enough
FYI I've got a DIY video I'm almost done editing, which might help you build your BROR cart, regardless of whether you have a Decent or another espresso machine.
I'll post about it here when I get it online.
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DIY coffee cart instructions
I've finished editing this instructional video, and it's up now. It shows you every step to make your own BROR coffee cart, from scratch.
To those of you who actually have DIY skills, my apologies.
I'm sure there are many moments where you'll wince at my incompetence.
But at least this proves "if Buckman can do it, anyone can!"
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The Force Tamper is very Decent
The Force Tamper is very Decent
A big thank you to Zubing, the inventor of the excellent, excellent Force Tamper for buying a DE1PRO to use at trade shows. He’s at Hotelex currently.
He bought the Decent Espresso Machine in order to use the charts and objectively prove that his tamper is improving espresso. Too cool!!!!
More info at:
https://www.instagram.com/starmoonxp/
and yet another Niche coffee grinder sighting with a Decent machine.
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BROR sighting
A day after posting the IKEA BROR DIY video, this pops in my inbox:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5-zUV2BdW7/
Name is One Hand Espresso as I make an espresso each morning holding our now 2-year old in the other hand, and I joked to @sspis1 that's what I'd name my coffee shop. Making espresso is one of his favorite activities!Comment
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Swiss Extensive Review of Decent Espresso
The Swiss Coffee School and review website Kaffeemacher https://kaffeemacher.ch has put an 30 minute video review of the DE1PLUS.
and a text version of much the same thing: https://kaffeemacher.ch/decent-espresso/
Both are in German, but Google Translate (and Youtube subtitles translated) works quite well.
Patrizio Frigeri, DE1 owner and Swiss twice second-place barista champion, leads the demo, with questions from Benjamin.
Both the text and video reviews are quite extensive.
The video, however, does a great job of showing Damian Brakel extensive rethinking of the Decent tablet interface, quite different from my "Insight" skin, with a lot of advanced features that aren't in mine. https://www.diy.brakel.com.au/dsv4-2/
UPDATE: I happened to be going to Basel two days later, when this review came out. So, I stopped by Kaffee Macher, met the #1 and #2 Swiss baristas, and we geeked out for a few hours. I believe there's a video coming out shortly, with my explaining the insides of the DE1 to them.
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Welded wire drip tray covers
Welded wire drip tray covers
New Decent customer Michael Garcia posted photos of his machine recently. https://www.instagram.com/mikegarciadiaz/
Nobody noticed that his machine is sporting the new drip tray cover.
What?
Well... we recently ran out of ugly, old style drip trays for new customers, and so we're sending out machines with the ~20 or so samples we have, of the new "welded wire" design. We should receive the final batch right around the end of December, and if we're lucky, not have to stop shipping machines, just as the moment we completely run out of drip tray covers.
This new design is what we're going to be using for the entire v1.3 production run.
Hopefully, those of you looking at this photo won't find it too unappealing.
The final run we're receiving is the same as what Michael Garcia Michael has, but with slightly different curves around the edges, to more closely match the ceramic curves. It's only a slight difference.
We're continuing to experiment with the cast drip tray cover design, but at best, it'll be 4 months before we have those in hand. And it's not clear yet that we'll be able to achieve the quality we want. The adventure continues.
People who sent in their ugly drip tray covers, will be able to choose whether to receive this new style, or wait longer, for possibly the cast design to be perfected.
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thats why whereever ive posted my frankencart i always post “inspired by johns decent espresso”Originally posted by decentespresso View Post
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