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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
    I find the strada looks to similar to an unmodified GS3 I think it would end up needing to go to Spect or the like for detailing.

    What's the main benefit of the strada?

    And what is it your not a fan of when it comes to the Kees?

    Thanks.
    It's mostly aesthetics to be honest. I've never dug too deep into the capabilities of machines in this price range as they're well beyond my means. A Specht customised Strada would look awesome. That mod on the Speedster looks good, but as much as the Speedster is a good looking unit I've never been a big fan of the dinky little lever. When you see it in action it looks and sounds a bit tinny sometimes. This is just from watching videos, it might not be so bad in the flesh, and just my personal opinion.
    As far as operation goes again I'm no expert, but there's many in the know out there are starting to say that pressure profiling on non-lever machines is a waste of time and what I've read about this is sounding logical to me. So I'd be more inclined to be looking at a lever or something like the Slayer or Strada that can control flow. Again, just my fairly uneducated opinion.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
      It's mostly aesthetics to be honest. I've never dug too deep into the capabilities of machines in this price range as they're well beyond my means. A Specht customised Strada would look awesome. That mod on the Speedster looks good, but as much as the Speedster is a good looking unit I've never been a big fan of the dinky little lever. When you see it in action it looks and sounds a bit tinny sometimes. This is just from watching videos, it might not be so bad in the flesh, and just my personal opinion.
      As far as operation goes again I'm no expert, but there's many in the know out there are starting to say that pressure profiling on non-lever machines is a waste of time and what I've read about this is sounding logical to me. So I'd be more inclined to be looking at a lever or something like the Slayer or Strada that can control flow. Again, just my fairly uneducated opinion.
      I'll get a chance to use the Kees and the Synesso soon. Hopefully it will help me decide. Thanks for your input.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
        I'm a bit of a gadget man and love the complex-simplicity that the Synesso brings on one hand it seems a manual machine, but can quickly turn into an auto volumetric. I love industrial quality stuff and look for tough reliable products. I hoped that the Synesso would bring that too. I love the looks of the slayer and speedster, but don't know if I would be happy with the more manual approach thus the reason I don't see myself with a lever machine. My thoughts are that I like the idea of an upgrade, but I doubt it will make that much difference in my hands.
        Looks like a Synesso is the most likely outcome.

        But there's no substitute for trying things out. Best way to decide.

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        • #19
          I think I'm failing for the Speedster, the only thing that really bothers me is that they install a hot water knob that is redundant, I know it's for symmetry, but the wand faces inwards towards the group so that's not symmetrical.

          Does anyone know if a mod has been done just to put a chrome cap on the end of the water knob instead of the full fitting?

          Also I wish it was volumetric, but it's that asking to much?

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          • #20
            What a piece of art!

            Originally posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
            I think I'm failing for the Speedster, the only thing that really bothers me is that they install a hot water knob that is redundant, I know it's for symmetry, but the wand faces inwards towards the group so that's not symmetrical.

            Does anyone know if a mod has been done just to put a chrome cap on the end of the water knob instead of the full fitting?

            Also I wish it was volumetric, but it's that asking to much?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
              I think I'm failing for the Speedster, the only thing that really bothers me is that they install a hot water knob that is redundant, I know it's for symmetry, but the wand faces inwards towards the group so that's not symmetrical.

              Does anyone know if a mod has been done just to put a chrome cap on the end of the water knob instead of the full fitting?

              Also I wish it was volumetric, but it's that asking to much?

              you know, i have looked at this machine in photos so many times, and never noticed the way the hot water wand sits. It is very odd indeed.
              As for the non operational hot water knob, i think it would look even more odd, if it were removed and an end cap placed in its spot. May have to photoshop it out to see what it looks like

              not sure were you are located, but maybe talk to the coffee machinist (a sponsor on here) about the mods you are after

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JohnA View Post
                you know, i have looked at this machine in photos so many times, and never noticed the way the hot water wand sits. It is very odd indeed.
                As for the non operational hot water knob, i think it would look even more odd, if it were removed and an end cap placed in its spot. May have to photoshop it out to see what it looks like

                not sure were you are located, but maybe talk to the coffee machinist (a sponsor on here) about the mods you are after
                Yeah good idea, I'll speak to him. I should spend some time with it first and then see if it truly annoys me or not.

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                • #23
                  I'm probably the only one that thinks the Speedster is one ugly machine Hydra, or better yet, Slayer are amazing looking!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
                    Yeah good idea, I'll speak to him. I should spend some time with it first and then see if it truly annoys me or not.
                    i would love to read your thoughts on the speedster compared to the gs3 when and if you decide to get it.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tanax View Post
                      I'm probably the only one that thinks the Speedster is one ugly machine Hydra, or better yet, Slayer are amazing looking!
                      I don't mind commercial looking products, but I'm not sure if it's too industrial for a domestic kitchen? The newer MVP Hydra models do like a bit better with the added trim pieces.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JohnA View Post
                        i would love to read your thoughts on the speedster compared to the gs3 when and if you decide to get it.
                        It is funny you say that because, in a lot of ways it is the most similar of the choices to the GS3, if I could have the function of the Synesso in the Speedster body it would be an easy decision.

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                        • #27
                          So I got to have a play with the Synesso and the Speedster last week. My thoughts are a little muddled, but the Synesso would be my choice of machine to want to work behind and the Speedster for looking at, so I've decided to wait and just be patient with my GS3 for now.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
                            So I got to have a play with the Synesso and the Speedster last week. My thoughts are a little muddled, but the Synesso would be my choice of machine to want to work behind and the Speedster for looking at, so I've decided to wait and just be patient with my GS3 for now.

                            no no no, you will talk yourself out of it doing it this way.
                            I know of someone (PICK ME, PICK ME) who will give the gs3 a very loving home, and then you can quickly replace it with the Synesso.
                            Never let the brain rule over the heart....BAD MISTAKE

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                            • #29
                              JohnA is completely right. you've started an enterprise which was emotional (happy with GS3 but want to try something else for varieties sake) and now are attempting to test the hearts desire thru a prism of rationality. if you can even get close to affording it, then commit and resolve!

                              i for one would be fascinated to use something which was volume based and profiling is the bees knees.

                              can i ask out of interest though if you have looked at the decent espresso machine? i'm not suggesting that the quality/longevity/aesthetics are comparable. however it is out soon and it is quite innovative in what it offers, particularly from a profiling perspective.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JohnA View Post
                                no no no, you will talk yourself out of it doing it this way.
                                I know of someone (PICK ME, PICK ME) who will give the gs3 a very loving home, and then you can quickly replace it with the Synesso.
                                Never let the brain rule over the heart....BAD MISTAKE
                                Oh no I don't need this kind of encouragement, haha.

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