Synesso MVP Hydra 1 Group, thoughts?

[Jono_Willmer]

I don't it's me or everyone faces the same problem. I have recently done a DIY group head cleaning on my GS3 which includes removal of the shower / diffuser screen. When i put the screen back to the group head, I found that the screen is rotating freely even though i have tighten the diffuser screw. I would like to know whether that is normal or not?

Depending on the type of screen you have, it's very normal, it's not a problem at all. Great to hear you're cleaning your machine keep it up.

[mrgray]

Jono this is excellent news. I'd prefer it to arrive early next week but if we have to wait a couple of weeks so be it.

For any new followers of this thread, Jono was mulling over buying one of 3 machines, 2 of which are made in Seattle I think and the other in Europe (i think). Cruelly he will not tell us which machine is coming, even though we offered him extraordinarily helpful advice with his purchase.

I think it is reasonable to suggest that very soon Jono will be taking stuff to the next level!

[desachan]

I don't it's me or everyone faces the same problem. I have recently done a DIY group head cleaning on my GS3 which includes removal of the shower / diffuser screen. When i put the screen back to the group head, I found that the screen is rotating freely even though i have tighten the diffuser screw. I would like to know whether that is normal or not?

[desachan]

Hi Jono. I've been following this post and reading it makes me excited. I'm always excited to see others purchases and setups. Congratulation!! Remember to share some pix.

[Jono_Willmer]

Great news my machine is starting it's long voyage to Australia today, hopefully it will be in my house before the end of the month, but we'll see.

[Jono_Willmer]

thanks Jono. looks great, a very nice setup. gs3 looks pretty super cool but whatever you bought it's going to have even more presence on that bench i'd say.

i was amazed at how heavy the synesso was by the way when i was looking at it's specs. i guess they are all next level prosumer machines and the weight reflects that. my back is not so good and getting the LMLM into the car for a service was nearly a disaster (jet black have good parking and a hospital trolley to help with that which is nice). so anyway, hope you've got some strong backs to help on the day it arrives and needs setup.

also with the gs3 did you have it plumbed in or not? i thought i read a review once where it was implied that the line pressure available for the plumbed option was a big positive for pre-infusion.

also have you ever compared the two grinders on the same bean head to head? i'd be interested in your observations if you had.

The GS3 is heavy, but it's not ridiculous two would make it easy to lift.

The GS3 is plumbed in, my last two machines have been plumbed, I couldn't go back. Line pressure is good (3 bar), but only has 2 stage extraction. Having a Strada mod would be awesome.

So is the LMLM your new machine or are you getting something else? They are incredible, can't imagine needing anything else.

The grinders are quite different in design, but really the difference in taste isn't significant(that is in my hands). I like both and maybe at a pinch would choose the Mythos as the one to keep based on how clean it is(virtually zero mess).

I'm very happy with this setup overall.

[mrgray]

thanks Jono. looks great, a very nice setup. gs3 looks pretty super cool but whatever you bought it's going to have even more presence on that bench i'd say.

i was amazed at how heavy the synesso was by the way when i was looking at it's specs. i guess they are all next level prosumer machines and the weight reflects that. my back is not so good and getting the LMLM into the car for a service was nearly a disaster (jet black have good parking and a hospital trolley to help with that which is nice). so anyway, hope you've got some strong backs to help on the day it arrives and needs setup.

also with the gs3 did you have it plumbed in or not? i thought i read a review once where it was implied that the line pressure available for the plumbed option was a big positive for pre-infusion.

also have you ever compared the two grinders on the same bean head to head? i'd be interested in your observations if you had.

[Jono_Willmer]

Jono! I can't wait til you get this new machine. But, to help me wait, can we see a photo of your modified GS3?

[Jono_Willmer]

Jono! I can't wait til you get this new machine. But, to help me wait, can we see a photo of your modified GS3?

[mrgray]

Jono! I can't wait til you get this new machine. But, to help me wait, can we see a photo of your modified GS3?

[Jono_Willmer]

based on this thread i have examined in detail now the kees speedster and the slayer. the speedster with IdRis is a thing of great complexity and beauty. however, i only recently came to understand what the slayer does and so i have a new appreciation for it.

it is rather fascinating surely that these pump based machines are becoming so much more versatile. we can dynamically change pressure (kees) or flow (slayer).

so for Jono_Willmer I have a question now, how will you start out with this machine? i would have thought you'd want like 4 kg of a specific type of bean roasted exactly the same way just so you can reduce your variables slightly?

also you mention the GS3 is modified. in what way? have you already been doing a bit of manipulation of temp/pressure on the GS3 so you're in good shape to utilise these extra dimensions your new machine will give you?

i've got a new machine coming (nothing as fancy as you Jono) and so these sorts of issues are on my mind.

You definitely raise a few important questions and I think one of the keys to the answer lies in what you have said above "reduce your variables". This is the issue with all these machines and one of the reasons I've decided to choose the one I did.

The GS3 is only modified for looks, and the steam lever. It is plumbed in so I have a 3 bar pre infusion then have it set to 9 bar pump pressure(I could reduce this).

The Slayer is by far the most interesting, I am yet to truly understand this system, but I think in the right hands it would be immensely powerful for extracting subtle flavours. To me it is the stand out in the way it manipulates the water and coffee interaction.

I don't know how I'll start out with the machine, maybe just learning to pull shots till I can get some consistency, then start to tweak things from there. Though roasting at home with a Behmor means that I'll be forever chasing my tail in terms of roast profiles(not able to have 4kg of exactly roasted coffee).

I can't wait to see your new machine and I bet your excited too, congrats on whatever it is and I look forward to hearing about your experiences MrGray.

[mrgray]

based on this thread i have examined in detail now the kees speedster and the slayer. the speedster with IdRis is a thing of great complexity and beauty. however, i only recently came to understand what the slayer does and so i have a new appreciation for it.

it is rather fascinating surely that these pump based machines are becoming so much more versatile. we can dynamically change pressure (kees) or flow (slayer).

so for Jono_Willmer I have a question now, how will you start out with this machine? i would have thought you'd want like 4 kg of a specific type of bean roasted exactly the same way just so you can reduce your variables slightly?

also you mention the GS3 is modified. in what way? have you already been doing a bit of manipulation of temp/pressure on the GS3 so you're in good shape to utilise these extra dimensions your new machine will give you?

i've got a new machine coming (nothing as fancy as you Jono) and so these sorts of issues are on my mind.

[Jono_Willmer]

Jono it would be very nice if you would tell us what is coming. I'm basically living thru you and it would be great if you could take responsibility for that

Anyway my guess is that you are getting the Speedster with IdRis technology. Why? Because I looked at it today and it is so crazy beautiful and awesome I don't know why you wouldn't.

Sorry Mr Gray, I agree with you, but you'll all have to wait like I do, haha.

[mrgray]

Jono it would be very nice if you would tell us what is coming. I'm basically living thru you and it would be great if you could take responsibility for that

Anyway my guess is that you are getting the Speedster with IdRis technology. Why? Because I looked at it today and it is so crazy beautiful and awesome I don't know why you wouldn't.

[Jono_Willmer]

And we'll all just have to sit here in suspense for a month until the new photos appear in the 'snobs gear gallery' thread?

Yeah, I just confirmed with the factory the shipping date, then I have to wait even longer for it to be delivered locally, so late September is the expected time frame. Thanks for your help recently level3ninja.