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  • #16
    NJD, will you be the only user? The reason I ask is like you I love the look and features of the 800 and spent a few visits looking at it in the showroom. I then tried the lever. While not ridiculously heavy I suddenly realised my 50kg wife was not going to be happy at 05.30 using a lever. Went through the obvious thoughts like two machines till I realised how stupid that sounds for two people, so presently no 800 for me. Just thought I would mention it in case it was an issue for you as it sounds like you haven't touched one yet.

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    • #17
      There were a lot of levers being used in cafes every day by very small ladies in years gone by
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      • #18
        The effort is passion-driven.

        A less-than-coffee-passionate 50kg wife would most likely see lever espresso making as a chore (and too difficult)....but a coffee-passionate 50kg wife would love the process too...and have no problem cocking the lever on a modern spring lever machine.

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        • #19
          Modern (and vintage) levers are fun and rewarding.

          Just look at the face of the lady in Beanz' post #17...she is in the groove!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NJD View Post
            That's been my roadblock . I have read so much about the quality of the shots from the 800 but I do like the dual boiler , the rotary pump over the vibe , the ss boiler over copper however I do like the look and feel of the lever machine . That said I am now settled on the 800 . I'm sold . Thanks everyone for your input it helps no end to get users experiences with the machines in question.

            Now thats settled its time to find a grinder to finish the set up .
            Keep in mind that the pump on the Pro 800 is just there to fill the boiler. If you plumb it, mains pressure will fill the boiler so there is no pump noise at all.

            The Pro T64 and Pro 800 make a pretty good combo both in terms of performance and aesthetics!

            charlie

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            • #21
              Haha my partner i small but maybe her 55kg will get that lever moving ?? She will be fine but mostly it will be myself using it . Thanks for the heads up though. She is now coffee addicted also so I'm sure she will make it happen 1 way or another.

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              • #22
                I think the lever issue with someone smaller is a little over stated. Likely she will have maybe 2-3 cups a day? And maybe you would make maybe 1-2 of these for her? I think it might be a problem if she was making 30+ coffees an hour at a busy cafe, she would soon feel the strain in her arm/back.

                My wife has no problem pulling the lever and lifting it back up, but she did struggle a little on the La Pavoni. Another popular UK based coffee forum estimate the Londinium force required to compress the lever at about 12kg at the lever arm, so no problems really when using your body weight.

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                • #23
                  WBN, my point might have been unclear. I dont think it would be the strain, in my wife's case the very first thing when getting out of bed is make herself a coffee. I was more meaning the effort and concentration required before being fully awake would annoy her, totally get that others ( myself included) won't mind and something to be aware of if the op hasn't touched the machine. In my case what would be annoying is my wife waking me up to make her coffee!

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                  • #24
                    Haha, no worries!

                    I guess you would get that with any machine bar a fully automatic push button

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 338 View Post
                      .... In my case what would be annoying is my wife waking me up to make her coffee!
                      You have underestimated the fun factor, you will be out of bed before her just so you can use the machine.

                      And another photo for you this time from Pompei

                      There is a Profitec 800 out there with your name on it !
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                      • #26
                        G’day NJD,
                        I did a hunt and found this massive coffeesnobs thread on the Pro 800.
                        https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...0&share_type=t
                        Damn you (just a bit) for making me think about a lever now !!!
                        Grillsy [emoji199] bear

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                        • #27
                          To lever or not to lever, that is the question and it’s a first world problem if ever I have seen one ☝️

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Paolo View Post
                            The effort is passion-driven.

                            A less-than-coffee-passionate 50kg wife would most likely see lever espresso making as a chore (and too difficult)....but a coffee-passionate 50kg wife would love the process too...and have no problem cocking the lever on a modern spring lever machine.
                            The café in Pompei I posted earlier was in fact the Passion Café
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                            • #29
                              My other half has no issues with using our Quickmill Achille, which has the same basic group as the Profitec 800 (but perhaps a stronger spring). She's not sub-50kgs but she's not a giant either.

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                              • #30
                                Grillsy my issue as well to much thinking and to many options but boy it's fun looking for new toys !!!!!!

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