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  • SmokeyCIGAR
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    Does any one know if the PID in this upgrade can acquired with the ability to use the 15 amp dual boilers mode?

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  • Lyrebird
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    The Silvia's steam quality is probably its weakest point so that's hardly surprising.

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  • lukeh
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    I recently upgraded to the Synchronika 2018 model from a rancillio silvia to say I happy with the purchase is an understatement and the steam pressure is a big part of it.

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  • bowser
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    Gundy,
    Thanks a million, not 100% correct but it lead me to an answer. My machine doesn't have that capacitor but i did notice with the left panel off the pump become normal. I then played around moving things and found the pump made a heap of noise if the thing that runs parallel to the tank to the Tx valve was moved. I eventually found a sweet spot which allowed the side panel to be reinstalled and the pump stay quiet.

    Pump is back to 9 Bar and sounding sweet. I was ready to buy a new pump
    appreciate your help

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  • gundy
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    Hi bowser. I'm not sure if you've found the problem or not yet, but it's possible that it's the capacitor in the machine vibrating on the frame. Clive coffee has a guide to adjusting it. https://clivecoffee.zendesk.com/hc/e...otor-Capacitor

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  • bowser
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    For the guys who have done this upgrade has your pump become a lot more noisy? my pump is more than double as noisy as what it used to be . Wondering if that is normal or if my pump is on the way out? flow and pressure seems to be normal though

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  • Dodgy-Account-Grillsy
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    Originally posted by herzog View Post
    I think this was a smart move by ECM/Profitec. They have read the enthusiast market well.
    I have to agree Herzog.
    This isn’t a case of fixing a problem that was caused by poor design or engineering. This is a case of ECM and Profitec doing something no other manufacturer has done (as for as I know) by increasing pressure to commercial pressure.
    Back to the analogy. This is like adding a turbo to a 911. The 911 is awesome but if Porsche decides to improve it by adding a turbo I’ll have the one with the turbo thanks [emoji120]
    Grillsy

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  • Dimal
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    I think you have missed my meaning or maybe I presented it in a less than a clear fashion...

    Either way, we'll still have to agree to disagree...

    Mal.

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  • herzog
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    Pro700 / Synchronika steaming upgrade

    Originally posted by Dimal View Post
    There's something wrong with the intrinsic design and engineering of a machine, if after such a short time, you feel the need to upgrade aspects of its operating performance in one or more areas.

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    Not really the case at all when you think about it.

    People buy Porsche 911’s then take it to a tuner for various performance upgrades.

    You’d hardly say there’s much wrong with the engineering of a modern 911.

    Never underestimate the hobbyists’ desire for upgrades, whether it’s a high end car or espresso machine.

    I think this was a smart move by ECM/Profitec. They have read the enthusiast market well.
    Last edited by herzog; 9 September 2018, 08:51 AM.

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by gundy View Post
    As a long-time 'hacker' (in the original sense of the word), I prefer to see it another way. There's something really _good_ about the intrinsic design and engineering of a machine if it's serviceable and upgradable and capable of doing things beyond it's original design specifications with relatively minor modifications. That you can take a great machine and easily make it better justifies my original investment even more.



    We'll have to agree to disagree here. In my world view, just because something works - even if it works well - it doesn't mean that it can't or shouldn't be made even better. Continuous improvement is the name of the game.

    I love my Synchronika. I loved it before the upgrade. I love it even more now

    D.
    Indeed...

    We'll have to agree to disagree on several points.

    Mal.

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  • rusty888
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    Yeah I don’t know the difference but as mine is it’s fine. For sub 100 I would take the gamble and see what’s its like.

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  • Dodgy-Account-Grillsy
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    I guess that to many the extra steam pressure is a nice to have and not a have to have. To others (inc me) it’s more of a very very very nice to have :-)
    Grillsy

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  • bowser
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    Upgrade totally not required. I was happy with the milk before but i'm just one of those people who these type of improvements appeal to. I was more than happy with the steam power and frothing speed with the steam temp set at 127 deg prior to the upgrade.

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  • gundy
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    Originally posted by Dimal View Post
    There's something wrong with the intrinsic design and engineering of a machine, if after such a short time, you feel the need to upgrade aspects of its operating performance in one or more areas.
    As a long-time 'hacker' (in the original sense of the word), I prefer to see it another way. There's something really _good_ about the intrinsic design and engineering of a machine if it's serviceable and upgradable and capable of doing things beyond it's original design specifications with relatively minor modifications. That you can take a great machine and easily make it better justifies my original investment even more.

    Originally posted by Dimal View Post
    I guess the point I'm trying to make is, get to know the operating characteristics of your machine by testing its limits and then start to zero in on a setup that allows your machine to perform as you want, without spending additional money on "improvements" that are probably not even necessary...
    We'll have to agree to disagree here. In my world view, just because something works - even if it works well - it doesn't mean that it can't or shouldn't be made even better. Continuous improvement is the name of the game.

    I love my Synchronika. I loved it before the upgrade. I love it even more now

    D.

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  • Dimal
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    There's something wrong with the intrinsic design and engineering of a machine, if after such a short time, you feel the need to upgrade aspects of its operating performance in one or more areas.

    For example, my last twin boiler machine was capable of excellent performance in both key areas of texturing milk and wonderful espresso. Stretching ~300ml of milk with perfect, glossy microfoam took approx. 15 seconds - Every time. Espresso pours were always spot-on to suit my palate also and in my case, that was 45-50g from 24g of coffee. To get the machine to this point from initial delivery to our house, took all of 2-3 days of fine tuning and thereafter, was where it stayed. Brew water temperature was occasionally adjusted to suit roast batches where I missed the ideal roast profile but in all cases, never more than +/- 1.5Deg.C from a midpoint of 92Deg.C...

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is, get to know the operating characteristics of your machine by testing its limits and then start to zero in on a setup that allows your machine to perform as you want, without spending additional money on "improvements" that are probably not even necessary...

    Mal.

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