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  • #31
    Originally posted by 338 View Post
    Yet in this very thread you were pointing others in the direction of a retailer who has been playing consumers for a mug for a few years now!
    I've re read all the posts and I don't get this. What am I missing?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 338 View Post
      Yet in this very thread you were pointing others in the direction of a retailer who has been playing consumers for a mug for a few years now!
      There was a lot of inuendo regarding that particular retailer after the fact and unless you had followed their particular threads at the time, you'd be none the wiser. Online profile elsewhere appeared to be different from here. It was only in more recent times that their behaviour here on CS was clarified on the forum and the posts this retailer made under numerous aliases were relabelled Dodgy-Account-******, as appears in this thread in the earlier posts.

      There are lots of questionable practices that go on in retail and the coffee industry has it's fair share. It's a case of what you don't know won't........

      One of the classics I came across a couple of years ago was to do with the distributor of what was once a well supported brand of coffee machine. I rang the distributor (interstate) and asked for a list of retailers in my state. I was told there were none and if I wanted to buy a particular machine I would have to buy from him. I did a bit more searching and found a lesser known retailer nearby who sold this brand. I verified that they sourced their machines from this distributor. When I called out the distributor about this he "suddenly remembered" this retailer. I voiced my disgust at his actions and was later offered a 30% discount on the machine I was interested in. Told him I didn't trust him and wondered how warranty repairs would be handled if he lied so readily to prospective buyers. Might partly explain why the brand largely fell by the wayside here in Aust.

      Originally posted by 338 View Post
      Not having a go at you....
      Yeah, you are.

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      • #33
        So I jumped on some BF deals and ordered a Pro 600. Nothing off the machine, asides from free shipping & some beans. Though the accessories were at an excellent price, better then I was expecting. Waiting on the next shipping batch of Niche Zero grinders, so may be a little while before I can provide some feedback on the P600.

        Figured I'd been doing the indecisive dance for awhile and it was time to just jump in.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Nugmo View Post
          So I jumped on some BF deals and ordered a Pro 600. Nothing off the machine, asides from free shipping & some beans. Though the accessories were at an excellent price, better then I was expecting. Waiting on the next shipping batch of Niche Zero grinders, so may be a little while before I can provide some feedback on the P600.

          Figured I'd been doing the indecisive dance for awhile and it was time to just jump in.
          Well done Nugmo, enjoy your new machine.

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          • #35
            Congratulations Nugmo, looking forward to read what you think of the machine.



            Cafe Lotta, I think you have missed my point. I do not think the coffee industry is without sin, far from it. My point is the lowest possible price is not always the priority or best deal for everyone. If someone chooses to pay a couple of hundred dollars extra to buy from their small local guy, the guy they buy their beans from every week, the person they have a personal relationship with, the person they know who will back their interests in a warranty claim rather than the distributors - all rather than buying from a larger retailer or a retailer at the other side of this vast continent - well I can see how that and the peace of mind it provides represents the best deal for them. For another person who is handy buying a no warranty machine at a substantial discount may be a better deal. As I have said here before, there is a hat for every head, but the same hat will not fit every head.




            Originally posted by CafeLotta View Post
            Yeah, you are.
            No I am not and apologies if you feel that way. I thought you, a longstanding member with frequent involvement in discussions and a keen interest in machinery, would be the ideal proof to prove to you that it is very hard to have perfect knowledge of what is happening in the industry for outsiders. I thought the shenanigans were well publicised before, during and after the individual concerned leaving. I even heard about them outside the forum. You suggest his online profile elsewhere is different. Well you would hardly expect him to write about his fake accounts on his website - but interestingly enough he does! He call his fake accounts 'angel accounts' who were there to fight for him and stick up for him when others were harsh to him. I honestly thought the reason he had so many comments, both good and bad, was because at the end of his tenure it felt like 50% of all forum posts came from him. With that volume of posts you have to be generating responses. Of course with that volume of posts it is also hard to make each one meaningful. I understand some consider those fake accounts as angel accounts, I personally just consider it false and misleading and call it as such.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 338 View Post
              My point is the lowest possible price is not always the priority or best deal for everyone.
              Agree with this. Maybe it got lost in my comments but the point I was originally trying to make was that the base price (RRP?) in Australia for the Profitec 600 starts out higher than the USA and UK when doing a direct comparison using the exchange rate. On the other hand ECM machines here in Australia are on par price wise with the USA and UK and would have the same associated costs as Profitec to import, get compliance etc.

              Originally posted by 338 View Post
              No I am not and apologies if you feel that way. I thought you, a longstanding member with frequent involvement in discussions and a keen interest in machinery, would be the ideal proof to prove to you that it is very hard to have perfect knowledge of what is happening in the industry for outsiders.
              Appreciate the comment. It seems there is a lot more to the story regarding Mr. Angel Accounts. For whatever reason I really didn't tune into it at the time. It wasn't until the recent disclosures here on CS that some of the members comments mad sense. Anyway, enough air time wasted on that topic probably.

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              • #37
                Cafelotta, I think we are on a pretty similar page.

                Agree with you about wasting airtime on angel accounts (what a nice name he coined), there seemed to be lots happening with old bull, young bull, a tapatalk addiction and probably plenty other things we have no idea about.

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