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Lancruiser you are spot on but the retailer has to sell over $75k into Australia to be required to register
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My understanding is that the government requires overseas retailers to register and collect GST from Australian customers for items less than AUD1,000. Items above AUD1,000 have GST and import duty collected by customs. That's is why Ebay, Amazon and Ali Express collect GST. Having said that, there are lots of retailers who are not registered for GST, thereby, giving the impression that anything below AUD1,000 is GST free.
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Baz GST on everything but the officers seem only to chase over $1k, almost as if they are applying the old rules. Very rare to see something over $1k slip through, Auspost best chance. FedEx and DHL usually pre clear so almost no chance of anything slipping through unless a false declaration.
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GST is applicable on all imports now. Most things slip through though, unless you order from Ebay or big overseas retailers who collect the GST on Aus governments behalf at point of sale and forward it on.Originally posted by Bazfletch3 View PostIs it no GST under $1000- or was that the old rules?
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Healthy saving there of $50 for the exercise!
Healthy saving there of $50 for the exercise!
Healthy saving there of $50 for the exercise!
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Haha... Well at the time, the pro was the new kid on the block and wasn't available here for another 6 months. I just had to have it! Now you can get them in Harvey Norman of all places.Originally posted by 338 View PostHealthy saving there of $50 for the exercise!
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RRP's are nonsense. You can get it here now for $600... I got it when it just came out in the UK a few months before it was released here. Was about $550 from the UK then. Got a heap of goodies sent over with it.Originally posted by 338 View PostYou do know the rrp on the Gaggia is $899? You must have thrown in a lot of accessories relative to the value of the machine?
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You do know the rrp on the Gaggia is $899? You must have thrown in a lot of accessories relative to the value of the machine?
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No problem at all as long as you're happy to take a punt and not rely on your warranty. I ordered a new Gaggia 2019 Classic Pro when it was first released from the UK who are owned by Gaggia themselves I believe. Only a $1000 order with all the accessories I threw in the box.
Arrived within 72hours amazingly. No VAT at that end, and slipped through customs too, without the GST hit here. Have never had a problem with the machine. Since fitted a PID on it, so even if I did have an issue my warranty would be out the window anyway. Did the same with a Niche Zero too. Saved a few hundred bucks there.
I'm about to order an Olympia Cremina from Germany. Landed price is about $2300 cheaper than any of the dealers here. Of course, if someone has got a newish one for sale here for a similar amount, then i'll jump on it. Not many out there though...
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Another thing to be aware of is that these large online suppliers may not ship certain items to Australia. I believe this may be the case with Rocket.Originally posted by Bazfletch3 View PostIts interesting; my quick calcs, using the Rocket range for instance, show a larger % saving on the lower priced machines, which gets smaller as you go up the range. You would actually save almost the identical amount on an Apartamento, a Giotto V & a Giotto R (approx $570 in each case). Id suggest everything else being equal you could almost make a case for what amounts to a 20% saving on an Apartamento; but as that drops to 15% on a Giotto R, not so much. And the saving on a $4.5k R58 (or I should say its new equivalent) is only about $400.....
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Yes, and after digging through things I tend to agree. Its an interesting discussion though - which I appreciate.Originally posted by 338 View PostYou can see I just don't think os purchases on this item are cheap enough to bother.
I do find it curious that a lot of the other commentary Ive read around this topic (not on this thread - for which Im thankful!) seems to head in illogical directions very quickly.... "yes but what if?" I would imagine that kind of view is why Harvey Norman make almost as much from their extended warranty programs as they do from actual sales....
Cheers
Baz
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I dont disagree with your sentiment Nick, but again, its a risk/consideration on a couple of fronts. Time and inconvenience has a value as well, Ive certainly had previous instances of having either fixed something myself, or paid someone locally to fix something, that I could have had rectified for "free" under warranty if I was either willing to waste 6 to 8hrs of my time in the car or go without something for the fortnight it takes to ship something off and back.Originally posted by nickm View Post
Something goes wrong and it's a 3 hour drive and 0$ repair as opposed to being up the creek with a 3 hour drive with a $$$$$ repair. It's a risk. Let us know how you go
While I certainly dont pretend to have any real knowledge or experience on the matter, Id hope like hell that these kinds of machines, once set up and working (ie: with no out of the box problems) dont have warranty type issues very often - we're not talking about your Aldi appliance type purchases that you almost expect to fail....
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Baz
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Baz some machines are adjusted for our climate (a gicleur or restrictor, to slow flow of heat), some for our tastes (not many dark robusta coffees drunk here), others spec different boilers for AU. This will probably happen in the factory but possibly here but is destination specific. Don't be so sure a $3k machine works out of the box, it should but easily may require some small adjustments. Plenty of stories here where that happens. $3k is a bit out of our personal weekly budget but to a manufacturer it is just another machine and one at the lower end of the scale, faults happen.
I hear what you say about rural businesses as I spend a fair bit of time in the country. That said many coffee machine business are pretty modest in size and you could count the families your dollar will be helping.
Which brings up another point, good coffee business overseas don't chase our sales, as they realise they can't support in the manner they would like. So the sharp pricing comes from box movers who have a diabolical reputation. You can't have the sharpest prices and time consuming support or high service levels. Zero support, surprise charges, closing and reopening, etc.
Even 3 hours from Melbourne your machine would be fixed faster by spending half an hour on the phone with a local tech, then an express bag with the part. Versus zero support so muddling on forums or similar, then trying to find the part. Fun on something you are restoring, frustrating on something recently purchased. You can see I just don't think os purchases on this item are cheap enough to bother.
For your own amusement read about Cafe Italia on these forums - not particularly bad or good, just typical box mover and practices.
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