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  • #16
    Originally posted by mrgray View Post
    WW beans is unforgivable - i am working on rectifying this situation (have ordered from Andy). behmor is no more after it errored itself out of existence one day.

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    For the crime of using WW beans and misrepresenting it as "coffee". ... you are hereby sentenced to hand your machine over to appropriate holding for 10yrs. Naturally I'm the appropriate holding authority :P.


    Thank you to the owners who have shared here - super helpful input .

    I have been considering a profile machine. I bought the VBM Super Digital and was unimpressed by its quality at its price point. I liken it to Breville with the cheap parts used. Returned it and kept hunting around. Now I'm unsure if I want profiling or simply a machine that will do preinfusion and give a much nicer extraction than my old Giotto Hx unit.

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    • #17
      A question of owners... I'm replacing a Giotto HX machine and im curious as to the elements of the GS3 that really elevates the espresso quality on a per cup basis - not just capacity to produce shot after shot.

      Are there defining differences between the AV model and the manual model? I'm unclear if the pre-infusion is different or tuneable on one but not the other and it seems a point of shot production that people admire about this model?

      My altrernative option to this to consider of current models would be the mini with some of the recommended mods. I thought that might be a more accessible and cost effective step using used machine (also given they are more available in the used market)?

      Thoughts and advice?

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      • JohnA
        JohnA commented
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        as an owner of the AV, i can tell you not to bother with the pre infusion settings, as they result in nothing better in the cup IMHO
        If you want to play around go the MP or as you say the linea mini with mods, or the decent if that floats your boat. Another option coming from the giotto would be to stick with the rocket brand and go the R9 one, or if you can hold off, wait and see what the sanremo you is like when its finally available

    • #18
      Thanks John .

      The MP has proper lever operated pre-infusion (not lever operated solenoid for the pump like the standard mini)?

      The reason I thought a mini might be a good path is the lower price point of used models and the ability to mod in pre-infusion that can be tweaked but is very much seamlessly incorporated into making a brew. I don't want to have to do a magic dance to pull every shot. The GS3 looks 100% better though haha.

      I'm actually in close contact with SR over the You as it looks to be a very nice machine. Requires 15A to operate which could be a problem for me and there is no guarantee of a 10A model (though I am told it is being investigated given US market interest as well... likely with a switch to operate brew or steam).

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      • #19
        Yes i believe the mp is a lpropeelever machine unlike the mini. Allowing you full control of the shot.

        The mini with the mods though is from what I see very good indeed, I'm just not a huge fan of its looks..I much Prefer the gs3

        That's a shame about the you needing 15amp circuit. Not sure I'd want the experience of doing that at home on top of the cost of the machine. Would rule one out for me also

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        • Caffeinator
          Caffeinator commented
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          The MP conical valve is a crude excuse in my opinion. You have a whole parts bin fill of Strada MP groups because nobody wants one.

          "I know what we'll do...Let's put them into the GS3 and pass it off as a pressure profiler... It won't have a variable speed pump though. We'll just use the rotary and dump the unused flow into the drip tray. The machine already has a pressure gauge, but nar- let's use another one on the group cap instead because that's what we did on the Strada multigroup".

          When they built the current MP conical, they should/could have built a GS3 EMP. They probably could have sold it at pretty much the same price as well if they wanted to. Fortunately we have @coffeemachinist in Australia to teach them how to build a real machine. Watch and learn LM.
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