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  • #16
    Such a shame not to have good local customer support because I really love the design of this machine. I never thought to reach out to Italy, so kudos to you for doing that. The aqua version is literally perfect, whilst I didn't think not having it would be a deal breaker, it's certainly should be standard at this price range.

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    • San
      San commented
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      Agree, it's such a shame to have such poor and incompitent local customer support, especially after they tried all diferrent tricks to sell a very outdated version instead of being honest and forthcoming with information on the version they stock.

  • #17
    I thought I'd share some of the information I gathered from overseas forums, mostly UK, Germany and Switzerland.

    It feels like Dalla Corte Studio (DCS) is - it's a Profitec Pro 300 on steroids (hardware wise and price wise):

    * brew head designs are very similar but with more accurate temperature stability on DCS (0.1C vs 1C)
    * both brew heads made of brass
    * proprietary 54mm on DCS vs standard 58mm on Pro300 (DCS 58mm upgrade is a proprietary size too so standard 58mm accessories will not fit)
    * there is a flow meter on DCS and no flow meter on Pro300
    * volumetric shots on DC vs manual on Pro300
    * rotary pump on DCS vs vibratory pump on Pro300
    * pump pressure gauge on DCS hidden inside the machine vs no pump pressure gauge on Pro300
    * plumbed in option on DCS and tank only on Pro300
    * no hot water tap on DCS vs hot water tap on Pro300
    * copper boiler on DCS vs stainless steel boiler on Pro300
    * no boiler insulation on DCS but there is a boiler insulation on Pro300
    * waste tray on DCS is plastic and stainless steel on Pro300
    * DCS fitted with more expensive (commercial grade?) parts than Pro300
    * weight DCS is 27.5kg vs Pro300 18kg
    * Price in Europe DCS around 4,300 euro vs 1,200 euro for Pro300 (price slightly vary, depends on a country)

    There are few issues with an early versions of DCS:

    * DCS had 50l pump that allegedly caused pressure gauge to rattle (pump pressure stability issue?); has been replaced with 70l pump from s/n F19002379
    * DCS has no hot water tap nor steam pressure tap to empty the boiler: water sitting in a copper boiler for prolong period of time might get contaminated by the leaked copper, become stale and affect flavour of a steamed milk; a boiler tap has been added from s/n F21001876

    In one of the catalogues, I saw the new version of Dalla Corte Studio, called DL Studio Aqua, that fitted with a hot water tap, pump pressure gauge on the front, bigger steam boiler (2.5l) and might be some additional minor updates; the list price was around 5,000 euros.

    DCS is around 3.5 times more expensive than Pro300 and DCS Aqua is 4 times more expensive than Pro 300. The choice is yours.
    Last edited by San; 24 March 2022, 03:05 PM.

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    • #18
      I came across this thread on my travels researching the DC Studio, so thought I'd sign up to share my thoughts and opinions. I currently have a Rocket Apparamento (about 5yrs now) and looking to make the next step up the machine ladder. My short list is loosely: Synchronika, Studio, LM. I have ruled out the You, Famina, Mina, ES1, etc and as being too much of a jump this time around (as this hobby is just as much about the journey as the destination for me).
      Anyway, the Studio appealed to me with the brew group design and commercial DNA, compact size and aesthetic. I think that the Synchronika will give me a 'more of the same, but slightly better' experience compared to the Appartamento. I use an LM daily at my office, and while the steam is phenomenal, i feel that it is a rather over rated machine with an agricultural (though sturdy) build quality.
      I viewed the Studio at a dealer a few weeks back, and they did a bit of a demo. Some impressions:
      - build quality was nice, portafilters very high quality.
      - surprisingly compact, particularly front to back
      - menu system worked well
      - machine would move on the bench when tightening the portafilter, like the feet had limited grip
      - i really hate the chromed plastic fascia around the group, just feels cheap. And I wonder how it will stand up to accidental knocks.
      - steam power seemed good, but I'd want to try it myself to see how it compares to the LM

      So the jury is still out for me. I don't think the LM is worth the extra cost over the studio (at least here in NZ). There aren't actually a great deal of machines in the same bracket, since its a bit of a no mans land between high end e61's and genuine top tier machines.

      For anyone looking for more info on the studio, the best resource I've found is the 100+ page thread on kaffee-netz, which is a good read with plenty of owners experiences.

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