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  • Weird Message on R58 PID screen

    Machine has behaved beautifully for nearly 10yrs but on today's 2nd pour I was concerned to see the following message on the PID screen.

    !!Csew!
    Uemqesa

    Searching the message yielded nothing on either word (not surprising).

    The machine won't fire up the pump when this is showing. Disconnecting the PID Controller, powering off the R58 for say 10min and then on again without the controller allows me to pour another drink, which is a relief. Will confirm later this arvo.

    Has anyone seen this before? I'm suspecting it might be a faulty PID Controller ...
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  • Answer selected by Javaphile at 21 April 2022, 09:09 AM.

    [SOLVED]

    Contacted ECA and purchased a new controller which is the new style one. While it was larger and nicer looking, I had modified the back of mine so that it sits neatly at the rear of the cup rail, and the size of the new one wouldn't be as neat.

    Installed as soon as I received it but sadly the weird message was still there, just an extra line of weirdness with the temperature now visible.

    All the connector pins were fine, so I opened the DB25 shell to discover one wire had come loose ... GGRRRR. Pulled out the Weller soldering station, stripped back the wire a few mm, and resoldered it properly. Many of the solder joints look rather ordinary, I know from experience that soldering these buggers is tedious and tricky. I also repositioned and tightened the strain relief to help prevent any other wires coming loose.

    I've ordered a right-angled DB25 connector so I'll swap out the shell so the coiled cable won't protrude and get knocked. It'll give me a chance to look more carefully at the remaining solder joints.

    Thankfully ECA refunded the part upon receiving, return postage was at my cost (of course). Can't fault ECA's expertise, service and outstanding customer care.

    Rather annoyed with myself that I didn't take a few minutes to open the DB25 shell and resolder the loose wire before posting.

    Anyway, happy days once again now that the R58 is fully operational!

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    • #2
      if its working fine without the pid controller maybe that is the cause. When i had my R58 i had the pid controller changed under warranty as there were times that it just wouldnt turn on.
      After that, i only plugged in the controller when i wanted to make a change, otherwise left it unplugged

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      • #3
        Tks JohnA , I'll run it without the controller for now, it's the only way the machine seems to work. It has always been connected since I bought it in May 2013 and it rarely did anything weird. Sometimes it'd just go blank during the day (maybe once a year) but a power cycle sorted it out.

        I just turned the R58 on after about 1hr, it heated the boilers and poured my last drink for the day without any dramas.

        Unfortunately this also means I can't any adjustments until I can figure out what's wrong with it. I generally raise the brew temp a few degrees during the winter months.

        Will contact ECA next week to see confirm, hopefully a replacement controller won't be alarmingly expensive if that's the fault.

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        • JohnA
          JohnA commented
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          yea mine use to go blank all the time also. A new one will set you back around $280 ish i would say, but would want to confirm thats the problem firsrt before splashing out.

          Also just check all the pins on the connector to make sure all are fine, and give it another try by plugging it back in again to see what happens

      • #4
        [SOLVED]

        Contacted ECA and purchased a new controller which is the new style one. While it was larger and nicer looking, I had modified the back of mine so that it sits neatly at the rear of the cup rail, and the size of the new one wouldn't be as neat.

        Installed as soon as I received it but sadly the weird message was still there, just an extra line of weirdness with the temperature now visible.

        All the connector pins were fine, so I opened the DB25 shell to discover one wire had come loose ... GGRRRR. Pulled out the Weller soldering station, stripped back the wire a few mm, and resoldered it properly. Many of the solder joints look rather ordinary, I know from experience that soldering these buggers is tedious and tricky. I also repositioned and tightened the strain relief to help prevent any other wires coming loose.

        I've ordered a right-angled DB25 connector so I'll swap out the shell so the coiled cable won't protrude and get knocked. It'll give me a chance to look more carefully at the remaining solder joints.

        Thankfully ECA refunded the part upon receiving, return postage was at my cost (of course). Can't fault ECA's expertise, service and outstanding customer care.

        Rather annoyed with myself that I didn't take a few minutes to open the DB25 shell and resolder the loose wire before posting.

        Anyway, happy days once again now that the R58 is fully operational!

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