Re: Cold Press - Methods
Update.
I have tried the Swiss Gold filter. Much nicer to my palate. More oil. Thicker body. The paper was harsher, kind of dusty. Maybe the cheaper paper filter I was using was the problem.
The metal filter is a bit of a pain. The fines clog the filter quickly.
Javaphiles suggestion of not stirring helps. Also not pouring from the top but using the plug hole helps to.
Yet to try cloth. Might be the answer.
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Re: Cold Press - Methods
Well with my scientific study, with the sample size of one, I can say; that putting the cold press in the fridge makes little or no difference.Originally posted by 7C7F6D6D697F671E0 link=1233791566/14#14 date=1241947358Could be the fact I put the first one in the fridge. Trying the paper method in the fridge tonight.
I didnt think it would, I was giving it 0.1% chance. But you never know!
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Havent got to the 10-20L rig. Call me a gonna if you want!
Here is where I am at.
Bought a 1.5L jug from the supermarket. Drilled a hole in the bottom. Put a plug in (smooth surfaced ear plug, is that food grade?.....)
Found some paper filters for a 5.7L percolator, $25 but they only came in lots of 250.
Grind 170g of bean. Add one litre of water. Easy.
So far it hasnt tasted as good as from the plunger method I first used. They have less body and more acid. Tastes ?dusty?
Thinking maybe the paper filters are taking out more than the metal.
Could be the fact I put the first one in the fridge. Trying the paper method in the fridge tonight.
Then need to find a cloth filter. Try that out. Old Coffee Snobs bean bags???
Has anyone tried out a metal filter with cold press? Like the Swiss Gold ones?

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I use a grind halfway between drip brew and percolator.Originally posted by 6063717175637B020 link=1233791566/12#12 date=1235601727Might try a courser grind setting and longer step time. Thoughts anyone?
A very important step in making CP. Dont stir the grounds!! Otherwise youll clog your filter.
Java "CP weather here we come!" phile
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Thanks again Javphile, much appreciated! ;D
Java B you are a smarta@se...... LOVE IT! ;D
All the I.T. geeks at work loved that link, certainly brought a smile to my face.
Made some cold press last night. Tried the Syphon to filter the liquid this morning. No good.
The cloth filter clogs. Had to pour off the coffee and clean the filter several times. I guess the vacuum is needed to pull the coffee through (or is it the higher atmospheric pressure pushing it through?).
Seemed like 98% of the grinds were no problem. The finer grinds were the problem. I used 170g of grinds to one litre of water, so there was still a lot of fine grind particles compared to what you would get in an espresso shot amount.
I used the grind setting that I use for plunger/syphon. About the 22 mark on my Rocky. For an espresso I have the setting between 4-6.
Might try a courser grind setting and longer step time. Thoughts anyone?
Still seems like a bit of a pain. One of the joys of cold press is the ease.
Probably make up a 10-20 litre rig. Shouldnt be that hard! Wont start for a couple of weeks as I will be on holidays. Ill post some pics when done. Stay tuned!
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Google with attitude... Thats a cack JavaB.Originally posted by 654E594E6D2F0 link=1233791566/6#6 date=1235525486http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:coffeesnobs.com.au+cold+press
The site: bit is VERY important.
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Correct.Originally posted by 33302222263028510 link=1233791566/3#3 date=1235521339So the Toddy is just a better filter than the plunger? Maybe easier to use?
No.Originally posted by 33302222263028510 link=1233791566/3#3 date=1235521339Any reason why I couldnt line a bigger container with a filter cloth, soak the grinds then draw the cloth together and filter off?
No.Originally posted by 33302222263028510 link=1233791566/3#3 date=1235521339Does the sediment reduce storage time?
Room temp here ranges from 12C-35C over the course of the year. At the cooler temps typical soak times are around 16-18 hours. In the warmer months 10-12 hours is more typical.Originally posted by 33302222263028510 link=1233791566/3#3 date=1235521339Sounds like a silly question but what do you regard as "room temp".
I brew in a 6 gallon container that has a spigot on the bottom of one side. This allows me to draw off samples to determine the best time to decant.
The other big variable in your soak time is the fineness of your grind. The coarser the grind the longer the soak.
Correct.Originally posted by 33302222263028510 link=1233791566/3#3 date=1235521339If the ambient temp goes up do you reduce the soak time?
Nope!Originally posted by 33302222263028510 link=1233791566/3#3 date=1235521339Do you also change your ratio of 5 pounds of grinds to 14 quarts of water? (I think that works out to 170grams to 1 litre) In other words any reason not to make a concentrate?
Java "Loves his CP, yes he does!" phile
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Thanks beanflying.Originally posted by 7770747B73796C7C7B72150 link=1233791566/8#8 date=1235540215Having a think about the process as well today one of my stovetop Syphons might work providing the filter doesnt clog to much. Brew into bucket X then pour into the top brew chamber leave to filter to the bottom, make sure it is not totally sealed to allow air to escape from the lower chamber.
I had the same thoughts too, since I dont really use my Syphon. Pictures of the Toddys filter look like they are the same size as my Syphon filter, just that the Toddy has bigger chambers.
Might brew some up tonight and filter off tomorrow morning.
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Try these Cold Press threads also various links out to Toddy etc. If you found anymore let me know and I will add them to the list for transferring.
Also you can use an Aeropress for CP in small batches as that is how Dennis made the Instant Coffee for Auction.
Having a think about the process as well today one of my stovetop Syphons might work providing the filter doesnt clog to much. Brew into bucket X then pour into the top brew chamber leave to filter to the bottom, make sure it is not totally sealed to allow air to escape from the lower chamber.
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1141872695/5#5
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1136514307/11#8
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1140901380
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1201311226
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1180308518
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Oh Ha Ha,Originally posted by 163D2A3D1E5C0 link=1233791566/6#6 date=1235525486Hi bassway
Try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:coffeesnobs.com.au+cold+press
The site: bit is VERY important.
But you are searching for cold and or press,
Try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Acoffeesnobs.com.au+%22cold+press%22
Are you trying to take the mickey?
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Hi bassway
Try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:coffeesnobs.com.au+cold+press
The site: bit is VERY important.
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"Search is your friend" AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH! >Originally posted by 797E7A757D776272757C1B0 link=1233791566/4#4 date=1235522084as they say "Search is your friend
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I know I keep bitching about this and I shouldnt as I am getting free advice, but other than this thread the search function came back with 3 USEFUL threads. Out of those one question was resolved.... sort of. That was the time soak verses ambient temp. But this was for temps between 15C and 23C not 31C.
Google comes back with cold press juice extractors, sites that sell Toddys etc or non snobs giving a very vague description of cold press.
Ill stop now.
People who get to know me keep saying "You remind me of Henry Rollins" >
I dont know if that is good or bad?!?!
Thank you for your response beanflying. Helping out others is what makes this a such a great site. I wish that sentiment would spill out more often into the real world.
I think that listing the post link will help other noobs, I am just after a bit more detail.
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Hi Bassway
there are a few threads on CP if you do a search of the site, they are in the next list of threads to be transfered to this section when I get a few more I was going to ask Andy to bring them over into this section.
The list is on my home PC so I can post tthe links here tonight if you like or as they say "Search is your friend
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Thank you (Javaphile) so much for answering!
Ah!
So the Toddy is just a better filter than the plunger? Maybe easier to use?
Any reason why I couldnt line a bigger container with a filter cloth, soak the grinds then draw the cloth together and filter off?
Does the sediment reduce storage time?
Sounds like a silly question but what do you regard as "room temp".
The temperature here has been very unstable lately.
In the house it has got up to 31C (88F). Not bad considering it got to 45C (113F) outside. Next day, outside, it got to the max temp of 22C (71F) and dropped to 11C (51F) overnight. Inside the house it was between 20C-24C. Hence the reason for putting it in the fridge.
If the ambient temp goes up do you reduce the soak time?
Do you also change your ratio of 5 pounds of grinds to 14 quarts of water? (I think that works out to 170grams to 1 litre) In other words any reason not to make a concentrate?
Sorry for all the questions. Seems like there is a lot of info on Syphons, some info on plungers and almost none on the clearly superior cold press
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