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  • ush85
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    Re: Hario or presso or chemex...

    Otto looks very beauuutiful though, superb bling and it can steam milk too ;D.

    I was given a demonstration by Shane from a nearby cafe (Wont put names, in case Im not allowed to list a non sponsor)

    I was told that the Otto reaches 4-5 bars? and the Bacchi reaches 9 bars.

    Too bad Bacchi cant steam milk and have the same killer looks of the Otto. (My prefered murder weapon, 7 kg of beauty)

    Maybe you might want to choose the Bacchi for straight espresso shots and the Otto for milk based espressos?

    Difficult choice for me

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  • lu
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    Originally posted by 02373A3D09153930303333560 link=1306816229/19#19 date=1307317099
    So far, I am yet to see Otto surpassing performance out of any other stovetop. I feel Craig hit the nail on the head with this one.
    Im confused Chris can you Pauline Hanson (please explain) :-/

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by 6D6B70202D180 link=1306816229/18#18 date=1307313786
    What about the bacchi?
    From what I see in the videos, it produces an amazing amount of crema yum...
    Same amount of work with the otto i think.

    -leo
    So far, I am yet to see Otto surpassing performance out of any other stovetop. I feel Craig hit the nail on the head with this one.

    Chris

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  • ush85
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    What about the bacchi?
    From what I see in the videos, it produces an amazing amount of crema yum...
    Same amount of work with the otto i think.

    -leo

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  • drovers-sunrise
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    I have an aeropress and a hario v60 and a plunger.

    Ive had the plunger since i first began drinking real coffee in 2003 and ALWAYS find myself going back to it! fresh beans and grinding them yourself really helps in getting the best from your plunger.

    I recently purchased an aeropress from one of the sponsors here at CS. The aeropress produces a really smooth and clean cup of coffee, no sludge whatsoever. Quite easy to master in terms of brewing and there are heaps of videos on youtube to help. Took me a few weeks but we are going great guns now. I do find you need to use more coffee if you like it strong as what comes out of the aeropress is less acidic than plunger coffee.

    The hario v60 - uh, i am still trying to get a nice cup of coffee out of this! I think the combination of getting the grind right and the pouring technique is something that is way out of reach for me! But thats just me. I know people who LOVE their v60s

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  • beanflying
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    The Bodum will be OK for your plunger pourover or maybe stovetop but based on others that have tried to use them it will fall over at Espresso grinds (Presso or Otto).

    Sorry for the potentially bad news  :-/

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  • Boomsn
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    Ok Im Going to go the aeropress and a presso for day to day use and once tax time comes along an Otto (the device that will eventually cover me with burns/scars . I was also looking at a technivorm but decided against it.

    I bought a cheap bodum grinder. How bad is this thing? I needed something short term quck.

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  • damienh7
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    Originally posted by 7E21392F242F232A2A2929212D224C0 link=1306816229/13#13 date=1306889292
    As for milk, I guess if youre happy to add milk to a coffee from a stove top or press, you will be ok with milk with an Aeropress. For me, if its milky, I want it to be added to espresso
    Ideally, same for me.  But beyond forking out for a new machine, Im keen to orgainse something simple for at at work. 

    I prefer stovetop over french press, but that could be due to my technique, which may need work with each!  I suppose the added factor is that heated milk, or a splash of milk, is quite different to textured milk.  Ive seen some stove top contraptions that have a steam arm on them... they might be a good item to keep an eye out for.

    Again, based on the weight of positive opinion, I will try to get my hands on an AP soon... birthday in a few weeks, and its sold at a great "birthday pressie" price-point!  Time to drop some not-so-subtle hints, I think 

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  • TC
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    Hi Damien,

    I know very few people who havent been impressed by the Aeropress.

    Do get a Coava disk for yours rather than using the paper filters. It takes coffee to a new level.

    As for milk, I guess if youre happy to add milk to a coffee from a stove top or press, you will be ok with milk with an Aeropress. For me, if its milky, I want it to be added to espresso

    Cheers

    Chris

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  • damienh7
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    Originally posted by 796F6A6A7B79757C7C7F7F1A0 link=1306816229/11#11 date=1306887675
    More info/opinions here: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1215044815/all
    Thanks - I have read through that thread before, and just had another skim through.  A few "does a great long black" type comments, but youre still the first to put it as bluntly as "I really dont feel it is suitable at all for milky drinks".

    But hey, at $50 odd its still worth a try based on a lot of positive opinion.  I may just move away from milk based drinks.  Im primarly looking for at work, and take away camping/holidays.

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  • cuppacoffee
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    Originally posted by 65606C68646F6936010 link=1306816229/10#10 date=1306885152
    first time Ive heard that Aeropress and milky are possibly not a good match
    More info/opinions here: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1215044815/all

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  • damienh7
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    Originally posted by 2137323223212D24242727420 link=1306816229/9#9 date=1306873457
    Aeropress?  Ive sold hundreds of them and had plenty of coffee from them too.  I really dont feel it is suitable at all for milky drinks.
    Perhaps Ive not been paying attention, but this is the first time Ive heard that Aeropress and milky are possibly not a good match... in fact that reads as a pretty strong knock.

    Id been planning to pick up an Aeropress for some time (just never got around to it!), but now Im not sure...  Is the general concensus that french press is the way to go for milky drinks?

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  • cuppacoffee
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    Originally posted by 012C2C2E302D430 link=1306816229/8#8 date=1306847152
    Not a fan of French press. I have had nothing but problems in the past, in saying that I have friends who swear by them
    Freshly ground coffee and a good technique may change your mind.

    Originally posted by 012C2C2E302D430 link=1306816229/8#8 date=1306847152
    I will also get an Otto or royal
    Lovely, and I dont think your concerns are warranted.

    Originally posted by 012C2C2E302D430 link=1306816229/8#8 date=1306847152
    same kettle( rippley one with the long pourer
    Hario Buono kettle. They are a lovely, functional item. The think long spout gives you good control over the quantity and destination of where you pour the water. An oil pourer will do the same job but not as beautifully.

    Aeropress? Ive sold hundreds of them and had plenty of coffee from them too. I really dont feel it is suitable at all for milky drinks.

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  • Boomsn
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    Originally posted by 454246454246454246494255270 link=1306816229/6#6 date=1306835838
    Easy. Get an aeropress. At $40 you will not go wrong. Beats a presso for ease and a French press on all counts including taste. It is indestructible and lightweight so travels well too. Works with milk drinks but best for long black.
    Get one. You will not regret it.
    Next best pick for me is a stovetop once you have learnt to use it well. Better still an Otto.
    My god I want an Otto (for pretty much the same reason I want the royal coffee maker, because it resembles a mini science project/meth lab lol.
    Areo press also looks great now Im totally confused. So I could go the chemex, aero, hario or a presso.

    I will also get an Otto or royal after I grab something for daily use. Although to be honest Im concerned about the ottos safety I love the ability to heat my milk however on watching the video I felt like the video was saying you will burn yourself repeatedly on this incredible device.
     
    Not a fan of French press. I have had nothing but problems in the past, in saying that I have friends who swear by them.
    I am however more confused than before
    By the way I use a glass stove top if that impacts on what I purchase.

    Another question: I noticed in most videos that people use the same kettle( rippley one with the long pourer) Is the kettle going to impact on my flavor country. Or will any do?

    Ill be buying from a site sponsor in the next couple of days. So whatever I buy Ill have to get a grinder and 1kg or some great beans. Thanks for all the advice so far please keep it coming.
    Good coffee is a great way of justifying to my girlfriend why I should by something like an Otto and a roaster. :

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  • beanflying
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    Chemex paper filters are a pain to use and you really need to rinse them first to avoid paper taint. The fix for this is a Chemex (6 or 8 cup) and a Coava Kone (stainless steel filter) this will give you for want of a better style a cleaner plunger. So really good body and a tiny bit of very fine coffee in the bottom.

    The Hario pourover cone will also take the same Kone insert and there paper filters give a slightly better extraction still need pre rinsing.

    An alternate is the Hario Sock style which is probably my favourite pourover silter to use. Still gives better body and flavour than paper IMO but without the fines you get with the Kone or a Plunger.

    First things first you need to get away from preground so look at buying a grinder

    Have a look in this section and you will find some info on the Kone and there is a few on plungers (I still use one at work sometimes). After that there is Syphons etc just to add to your toy collection.

    The Aeropress gives a really different brew to any of the above choices so if you can find someone using them to try a brew.

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