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  • #16
    Re: Aeropress?

    Originally posted by grendel link=1215044814/0#13 date=1215604102
    I now use my aeropress for small lots of cold process as the filters are great for that.
    Same here grendel.
    Cold press is a great way to use up beans that are still fresh, but on the way down.

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    • #17
      Re: Aeropress?

      Cold press as in brewing coffee with cold water instead?

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      • #18
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        You might like to have a read of the following posts Rudy...

        http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1140901380/0#0
        http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1141872695/5#5
        http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1136514307/11#9

        Special thanks to Javaphile!

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        • #19
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          Cheers Dennis...

          Interesting! I have to try this, so how do you cold brew with aeropress?

          Just mix in ratio as you would hot brewing but with cold water and sit for 24 hours?

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          • #20
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            What is the best coffee for the aeropress?  What are peoples favourites
            I have a few different beans to try but my favourite so far is Australian Capricorn Coast 10 days post roast. See https://<b>http://coffeesnobs.com.au...1215653124</b>

            I think that aeropress gets you a cup thats more like a long black
            Sorry to disagree but I reckon if instructions are followed closely used with fresh roasted beans, it is the closest you will get to an espresso. One may have to tweak the grind a bit to bring out the best but I guess I was lucky first shot. Also a little hot water to wet the grounds first. Also I found that if you insert the stirrer until it rests on the top of the chamber and stir with it in this position ALL the grounds will be mixed with the water without the stirrer touching the filter. Otherwise some will clump on the bottom and not mix.  

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            • #21
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              Agree ck.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

              I use the AeroPress to brew coffee to suit all manner of preferences and like you say, by experimenting with grind "and Water Temp", it is possible to extract excellent quality coffee. As for bean types Argon, well.... All of them as far as Im concerned, havent yet found one that doesnt work. Its basically up to you to tweak the process to find which combo of grind and water temp suits the beans you are using at the time..... 8-)

              Cheers,
              Mal.

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              • #22
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                I tried to use it differently.

                Put ground coffee in first, then dry tamp with the rubber seal first.
                Got nicely compressed grond coffee.
                Put hot water in then press down hard as I can. See what I am trying to do here?

                Didnt work...burst the filter paper and making awful mess.

                Hehe

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                • #23
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                  Haha  ;D

                  I only laugh because that happened to me too when I was at work.  Tip: it happens with beans ground TOO fine as well.

                  I see what youre trying to do there.  Ive only ever attempted to brew following the instructions, that is simply drop grinds in, stir then press.  Be interested to hear if anyone else does it differently.

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                  • #24
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                    Dennis, that Aeropress is fantastic!! 8-)

                    i use it for my decaf at night after hand grinding in the Zassenhaus (so not as fine as when Ms Carimali does the job).
                    i wet the filter paper with some water after i put it in, so as to eliminate any "paper taste" and allow for the coffee oils to flow freely through the filter, then put the grinds int the Aeropress, give it a tap on the bench and slowly pour some hot water on the grinds.
                    i stir the grinds up a bit and wait until they have absorbed the water, then i add the rest of the water and stir some more.
                    depending on what i feel like drinking i then either "press" the coffee into the cup for a more full bodied extraction, or simply wait until it has dripped through the filter, thereby making the Aeropress into an "Aero-drip" .

                    when we are on the road and i can use Ms Carimali to grind the coffee, but dont have the "juice" to run the Bott up to operating temperature, i use the Aeropress to slowly press a short espresso-style coffee: the fine grinds Ms Carimali produces (same setting as for the Bott) make for a lovely short coffee with incredible body.

                    L

                    oh, and as an aside, the little funnel which comes with the Aeropress makes an perfect 250gm coffee-bag filler

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                    • #25
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                      I think that aeropress gets you a cup thats more like a long black
                      I found this when making single espressos with the Aeropress and preferred to make doubles  UNTIL I re-read the instructions! Then I noticed that when making a single shot to use the fine grind. What a difference it made . So now there is no need to have an Aeropress setting and a machine setting. It is so quick to make two singles anyway and I find the results are superior to making a double on a coarser grind.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by cremakid link=1215044814/0#19 date=1215674281
                        I think that aeropress gets you a cup thats more like a long black
                        Sorry to disagree but I reckon if instructions are followed closely used with fresh roasted beans, it is the closest you will get to an espresso. One may have to tweak the grind a bit to bring out the best but I guess I was lucky first shot. Also a little hot water to wet the grounds first. Also I found that if you insert the stirrer until it rests on the top of the chamber and stir with it in this position ALL the grounds will be mixed with the water without the stirrer touching the filter. Otherwise some will clump on the bottom and not mix.
                        Sorry, I didnt explain how I use the aeropress. Of course you can use it as it is intended to be used to produce what the inventer calls "espresso" if you like, but I found it much more satisfying to use it to produce a long black type drink. Even when making espresso on an actual espresso machine at home, I tend to throw out an embarrassingly large number of shots for every shot that I drink. Given that its so hard to actually make a decent espresso on an espresso machine, I personally wouldnt bother trying to do that with the aeropress.

                        I found the concentrated "espresso" beverage that you could produce with the aeropress to be high in body, but to muddy up all of the flavours. You can get something similar by using a clean french press or even a stovetop. Making a long black style drink from it resulted in something with decent body and more distinct flavours. I prefer that, but I understand that many would go for the more concentrated drink.

                        When drinking coffee drinks other than espresso, I would rather enjoy something that tastes distinctly different from espresso, but nonetheless very good. If you like very viscous drinks with high body and low acidity levels, then you might not like drip. But drip has a lot going for it. It is really fast, really clean and really easy - once you are used to dialling in espresso, dialling in drip is childs play. Not to mention being really cheap - I picked up a pack of 40 #2 filters for $1.99 at safeway today and I think that I got my plastic brew cone for about $10. So even if you dont think that youre going to like drip, its hardly a big investment to try it out.

                        Paul Geshos from Mecca really likes the #2 Swissgold filter and the porcelain drip cones - those are harder to find and more expensive, but the Swissgold can be reused. If anyone knows off the top of their head where I can get a #2 Swissgold filter from, Id be very interested.

                        Cheers,

                        Luca

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                        • #27
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                          Hi Luca,

                          Judging by your post it sounds like you dont have much time for the Aeropress, which is fine. Though Im kind of wondering how often you may have actually used one. People who do use it regularly seem to be very satisfied with the results, and as you say, its whats in the cup that counts.

                          Personally, I too prefer having a long black when using the Aeropress (a couple of times a day). As for drip coffee, I find it doesnt provide anywhere near the spectrum of body or flavours the Aeropress can offer using different grind settings and coffees.

                          And BTW, 350 Aeropress filters for $6.00 works out at roughly a third of the cost of what youre buying at safeway.

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                          • #28
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                            I bought a bodum kona around a year ago and found the gold mesh weave to be suspectly similar to the swiss gold mesh (id go as far as to say identical except for the little bodum insignia), but im pretty sure a simple google search yields a number of online traders who sell for around $25, but you dont get the cool bodum caraf!

                            NOTE: My son has since broken my caraf, so esentially i payed around $80 for the same filter i could have bought for around 25:-/

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                            • #29
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                              I gave my Melita cone and papers to a colleague after I got my Aeropress.

                              THe thing that bugs me about the cone drip is how wasteful of coffee it is - you probably need about 50 grams of coffee to get a decent cup - so what you save in gear you spend in coffee. Also, there is a risk that, as the water drains through, some of the coffee will be overextracted and some underextracted, and the water cools dramatically along side all that coffee. It is basically impossible to control the process.

                              The Aeropress allows the user to control some of the variables to get the extraction rates right.

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Al_Cappuccino link=1215044814/20#28 date=1215947842
                                Also, there is a risk that, as the water drains through, some of the coffee will be overextracted and some underextracted, and the water cools dramatically along side all that coffee.  It is basically impossible to control the process.
                                All the same occurs (plus a significant drop in atmospheric pressure) throughout the puck when extracting espresso, and a number of measures (in design and application) are utilised in order to manage the change in these variable, resulting in a balanced cup. Its actually quite simple to control the process, but like most things in life, takes time, patience and guidence.

                                Originally posted by Al_Cappuccino link=1215044814/20#28 date=1215947842
                                The Aeropress allows the user to control some of the variables to get the extraction rates right.  
                                The aeropress does allow greater control over a larger range of variables. In fact, what I like most about it, is its ability to immitate (not replicate) many alternate brewing styles/methods.

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