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  • #31
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    Thats just beautiful. makes me hate waiting for my bellman even more!

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    • #32
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      Hey that is very impressive work with the Bellman! well done. You really cannot overestimate how much freshly roasted/ground beans make the difference.

      I am in the process of ordering in more of the paper filters as replacements.

      In addition I have a few sets of Bellman tampers if anyone is interested. They come in a set of two- one for use with the reducer and one without.

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      • #33
        Re: Belman Stove Top Coffee Maker

        Originally posted by 2A24352E2422470 link=1246339682/26#26 date=1270095650
        And, is the leftover water inside supposed to look like coffee at the end?
        Ive been using the 3-cup screen but loading the thing to the 6-cup mark to avoid running out of steam.
        Perhaps just follow the instructions?
        you really dont need to worry about the steam- there is a great deal of water left regardless of the fill level- and more than enough to froth liters and liters of milk.

        also it is always a good idea to open the steam valve at the end to clear the nozzle of any milk residue and also to allow the machine to depressurise.

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        • #34
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          Id be interested in the tampers

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          • #35
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            I was wrong about the tampers- I thought they came in a set of two- but there is only one.

            The hole in the center of the tamper fits neatly over the pole in the cx-25 basket when the reducer is inserted in the basket. When the reducer is not there the fit is not so tight but perfectly adequate. The tamper has a simple flat stainless base and a nice wooden handle. A little ugly but does the job nicely. The price is $24+ 4$ for postage anywhere in Australia. I only have around five at the moment- with a few reserved- so PM fast if you are interested. I will have more in stock in 6 to 8 weeks hopefully.

            here are some pics:






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            • #36
              Re: Belman Stove Top Coffee Maker

              Thats a nice looking tamper for this machine, and I think, a nice price too.

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              • #37
                Re: Belman Stove Top Coffee Maker

                Hi all,
                I just got my bellman and am trying to get it to deliver similar results as e-van. Im using a hand grinder and kuranda beans. So far my result seem to be weaker than my Moka pot but Im getting pretty good results with the steam wand.

                I might try to find out how to roast my own beans next... E-van how long do you let your beans rest after roasting? Im a total newbie by the way.

                Cheers!

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                • #38
                  Re: Belman Stove Top Coffee Maker

                  Hi JWL,

                  Some say that they are happy to start using beans 48hrs after roasting, some of us prefer to wait about a week as they often take that long to really develop the flavours, and for gas production to settle down a bit and give good pours. On the other hand there is a traditional African (I think) process where they roast the beans and make the coffee straight away.

                  However I would suggest that if you are using beans that are within about 1-4 weeks post roasting, and grinding immediatly before brewing then you will be able to get good results. It can take some practice and trialling to get your dose and grind size optimised, but that is alll part of the journey. Be especially careful of not overheating the unit as you wait for it to build up pressure for brewing.

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                  • #39
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                    Ive just poured a nice cup from my bellman. around a filter grind, 25g of coffee on the medium reducer, lightly leveled off with the handle of a spoon. Pre boiled water into the bellman then i played with the gas until i found the spot right before the water started to boil, then backed off another hair. Placed coffee in and screwed everything up. I let it sit for two minutes then opened up the valve.

                    Produced roughly 180mls of coffee before i cut it off. (brew ratio of around 16%? though its late and im not thinking straight) Tastes really good. I think all my earlier methods tasted bad because i was really burning the coffee. I still havent had a good espresso shot from this but what im brewing at the moment is pretty interesting. Think syphon coffee with less brightness and a stronger flavour. Not as sweet as id like but thats probably down to the beans im using.

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                    • #40
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                      Hey Zaneus,

                      Had another go this morning with your technique and as I am using the big BNZ grinder to grind up my coffee, I actually tightened the grind down a bit more and whilst I got less coffee out, it was far richer and more like espresso for me compared to the day before. Actually I was quite pleasantly surprised at just how good I managed to get it! Cant wait to try again tomorrow morning!!

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                      • #41
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                        Interesting. I was going for more of a brewed coffee taste when i was playing around with this method, but i dont see why it wouldnt work for espresso shots. Are you getting any crema, or is the pressure too low for that? I might have to chuck a shim into my grinder and play some more

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                        • #42
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                          Hmm...I think I might try and video it next time. The way the coffee comes out of the spout it seems quite quick and seems to dissipate any crema with the way I have been letting it fall into the cup I am using.

                          I was also not really fully concentrating this morning as I did have a visitor in the form of a mum who was picking up her child after a party from the night before!!  ;D

                          But it was definitely a fuller coffee than my effort the day before!

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                          • #43
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                            Youre totally right. Ive gone down in grind size, probably a good 4 - 5 notches on my EM0480 (rather large notches) Went down to 24 - 23 grams (not completely accurate as some falls out when dosing and a bit left in the container.

                            I noticed it took about 15 to 20 seconds after opening the valve before the pour started and i got around 120mls this time before the stream started to go weak. more body and a bit more complex flavour, less brightness and a lot stronger. First brew i did i drank straight. This one tastes a slight bit weaker than espresso but still too strong to drink straight in that quantity. drinking it at a 1:2 water to coffee ratio seems about right. Still pretty strong though.

                            Im liking this though. I never got a decent espresso shot out of the bellman but a coarse grind is working.

                            edit: Are you getting enough sweetness in your brews, scoota?

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                            • #44
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                              Hi Zaneus,

                              Sounds like youre getting ssome good results with your Belman.
                              Generally while the Belman uses some pressure to produce the brewed coffee, it isnt nearly as much as apump machine, and maybe shouldnt be called espresso as we normally understand the term. Nevertheless most stovetop units can produce very nice brews, and the Belman can produce some crema if everything is working well. (Dont get me wrong, I think a good stovetop brew is much nicer than a bad espresso).
                              The Belman can produce some great coffee, if you try not to expect the same as a pump driven machine, or a Bacchi, you wont be disappointed.

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                              • #45
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                                I was going to post pretty much the same thing.... however it is not strictly true- the Bellman does not make espresso- unless you are e-van who posted further up on this thread- he gets espresso

                                Having said that the machine is designed to produce coffee at relatively low pressures compared to an espresso machine (lever or pump). This means grinding a little coarser and/or tamping a little lighter.

                                I think the main issue with getting good coffee from a Bellman is the same as with any machine: the beans. You just cant get good results from stale beans (supermarket beans).

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