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  • #16
    Originally posted by Grillsy View Post
    What about a “red eye”??
    I think that’s a long black with a double shot on the top.
    That’s one I might try tomorrow to start the Monday motor
    pretty sure that's a double shot on top of a filter coffee. i've also heard it called a 'shot in the dark'.

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    • #17
      If I was to get the Flair Espresso maker will a Lido 3 be a sufficient grinder for it? I purchased my grinder for the french press and traveling so I went the Lido 3 instead of Lido E, now kicking myself LOL.Thoughts?

      Ta

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      • #18
        Hi Poena

        I have a Flair and Lido 3. While I now tend to use my Aergrind with the Flair, the Lido 3 is also perfectly capable of espresso grinding. The only downside is that it can be a little more difficult to dial in because it has a courser thread than that available on the Lido Es.
        I can certainly recommend the Flair and, if you decided to get one, I think you ought to give it a go with the Lido 3 and see how you get on with it before deciding to swap for an E. You may not find any difficulty with adjustments in the espresso range.

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        • #19
          That is great to know, thank you. What setting range would it be roughly on the Lido 3?

          I also saw that there is a bottomless 2 in 1 Portafilter for the Flair? What is that for or does that do? Sorry if that is a silly question, I know nothing about espresso machines....at all. Probably shouldn't admit that here LOL!

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          • #20
            Hi Poena

            An espresso grind on the Lido 3 will be right down near zero. I seemed to be near 3 to 4 notches, but depending on bean selection etc you may find it necessary to vary from that. I have only gravitated to the Aergrind because grind adjustment is much simpler than on the Lido.

            The 2 in 1 bottomless portafilter will help to diagnose extraction problems, especially whether there is any channelling. I think it will be interesting to see whether channelling is an issue on the Flair as the 41mm portafilter gives a higher diameter to depth ratio to the puck than on 58mm baskets. I presume the other side of the 2 in 1 moniker is that the spout base can be removed to allow cleaning of the otherwise enclosed area.

            It may not be an issue for you if you intend to buy a new Flair, but the 2-1 portafilter requires a different portafilter holder on the frame than that on earlier Flairs. That would be something to check on when making a purchase.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Otago View Post
              Hi Poena

              An espresso grind on the Lido 3 will be right down near zero. I seemed to be near 3 to 4 notches, but depending on bean selection etc you may find it necessary to vary from that. I have only gravitated to the Aergrind because grind adjustment is much simpler than on the Lido.

              The 2 in 1 bottomless portafilter will help to diagnose extraction problems, especially whether there is any channelling. I think it will be interesting to see whether channelling is an issue on the Flair as the 41mm portafilter gives a higher diameter to depth ratio to the puck than on 58mm baskets. I presume the other side of the 2 in 1 moniker is that the spout base can be removed to allow cleaning of the otherwise enclosed area.

              It may not be an issue for you if you intend to buy a new Flair, but the 2-1 portafilter requires a different portafilter holder on the frame than that on earlier Flairs. That would be something to check on when making a purchase.
              Thank you. I did find this video of the portafilter and thought it was really interesting. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...74740339386543

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