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  • Aeropress sucks

    Aeropress sucks, well to be a little more fair, the single Australian Importer of Aeropress sucks.

    We have always carried the Aeropress for CS'rs, its a simple device and good for travel but very over priced at $59.00rrp so we have always sold it at landed cost, as a service to the CoffeeSnob members.

    Late last year I placed an order for another 88 (they come in boxes of 11) and the distributor refused the order. He skirted around being careful not to say it was because of the price and even said "I can't say it's because of price" but that was the only reason.

    I've been buying these for years, always paid upfront on the day of ordering and we have sold something like 1000 Aeropress over the years. So much for loyalty.

    Sure, I could jump up and down with the ACCC as it's anti-competitive behaviour but buggered if I want to give that importer another dollar profit.

    Some site sponsors carry them, so shop around if you really need one or better still, change to something else!

    So, please don't ask me when the Aeropress will be back in stock, the company doesn't want you to get a cheap one from here.

  • #2
    Bugger, perhaps the others complained about your good prices? The importer shouldnt care, he got the $ anyway.

    Cheers

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    • #3
      Originally posted by artman View Post
      Bugger, perhaps the others complained about your good prices? The importer shouldnt care, he got the $ anyway.
      That was my thoughts too. He obviously got pressure from someone that sold more units than we do.

      Heck, we don't even pimp BeanBay into google searches, it was only ever for the CS community.

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      • #4
        Sorry to hear.

        Retailers who complain about competition when they try to get away with exhorbitant margins (one in Hobart puts $80 on Aeropresses) are probably the same who complain about on-line sales. They don't seem to realise that their own behaviour drives people on-line.

        Many retailers here in Tasmania try to hide behind Bass Strait freight costs but others can sell the same items at reasonable prices not that far away from mainland prices.

        I try to buy local and support small business but when they take these sort of liberties I make a point of actually telling them why they aren't getting my business.

        Meanwhile, while googling this issue I noticed that Aldi had Aeropresses as a special back in August at $35. I wonder whether those came from the local importer or from elsewhere?

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        • #5
          That’s an interesting development. Sorry to hear that happened Andy.

          I bought one for my sister from a site sponsor not that long ago because I forgot you had them here. [emoji1787]

          The pie is/was big enough for many sellers.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Otago View Post
            I noticed that Aldi had Aeropresses as a special back in August at $35.
            Interesting, maybe that was the cause!

            I would love to know where they got them from.

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            • #7
              I have an aeropress but been wondering what the difference in style of brew a brazen brewer is like compared to an aeropress?

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              • #8
                Bought my replacement one from here.
                I know at least one site sponsor still has them listed for a tad under $35 and has been selling them for some time at that price, so there are obviously others selling for well below rrp.

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                • #9
                  Ditched my Aeropress V2 as it was time for new bits and replaced it with a Delter.

                  Works well- not necessarily all that much better but I like the fact it was designed in Australia

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Andy View Post
                    Interesting, maybe that was the cause!

                    I would love to know where they got them from.
                    Andy, Aldi outsources absolutely everything in terms of support to the original supplier. For interest sake just call your local Aldi state office and say your aeropress is leaking, how do you get a new seal.

                    For what it is worth, i would think the supplier should assume you do more for the coffee industry and supporting aeropress than Aldi ever could. Obviously he doesn't. For what it is worth i see both sides of the argument, i would have just rang you and asked you to raise them by a fiver. Don't think either side would be too offended by the suggestion and explanation why.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mb21 View Post
                      I have an aeropress but been wondering what the difference in style of brew a brazen brewer is like compared to an aeropress?
                      I'll qualify with "I sell the Brazen" but...

                      The Brazen wins hands down mostly due to good brew temperature control. I can get flavours out of the Brazen that I can't in an Aeropress or a Delter and use a Brazen at home and work every day. Easy, consistent and replicable.

                      I've always traveled with an Aeropress and at under $40 with a stainless filter it was good value and a great replacement for hotel room coffee (that was before the brand left a bad taste in my mouth).

                      The Delter is more compact and I prefer the Delter flavours to the Aeropress, I think it's the lower pressure that produces a cleaner tasting cup but I've read about a few seal problems with the Delter so I'm keen on waiting for a "version 2" engineering fix before jumping in and buying a pile.

                      The obvious downside of the Brazen is we are out of stock and still don't have an ETA for the next Australian build.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 338 View Post
                        i would have just rang you and asked you to raise them by a fiver. Don't think either side would be too offended by the suggestion and explanation why.
                        Unfortunately that’s called price fixing and is illegal.

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                        • #13
                          100% correct. In the USA there is a thing called Minimum Selling Price, not legal here, though I have heard of wholesalers politely suggesting that to retailers. It has already been shown the importer had no issue with a $35 selling price, if the importer had been honest about what he wanted, they could either agree to disagree or come to an agreement. By not being honest about what was wanted (for fear of breaking the law), both parties lose. I also think the lack of frankness doesn't show much respect for the existing relationship or all the nice things Andy has posted in the past about Aeropress. Polite conversation is never a bad thing

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                            Unfortunately that’s called price fixing and is illegal.
                            Yep and it is. Unfortunately though, importers also make commitments to brands and the owners of the IP who have price expectations of where in terms of price any product will be placed in the market. I wonder if Aeropress USA had anything to say?

                            Originally posted by 338 View Post
                            It has already been shown the importer had no issue with a $35 selling price
                            I don't think that can necessarily be inferred. Perhaps the importer copped a foot in the rear end.

                            It's not unheard of for manufacturers/brand owners to read the riot act to local importers/distributors when their product is given away. Whilst <$30 was great for CS'ers who received their Aeropress at wholesale price, it may not have been so good for every other outlet in Australia including those of CS sponsors who may also have been keen to sell them and receive anything resembling a fair margin for doing so.

                            Some would argue that it also falls within the definition of anti-competitive.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Caffeinator View Post
                              Whilst <$30 was great for CS'ers who received their Aeropress at wholesale price, it may not have been so good for every other outlet in Australia including those of CS sponsors who may also have been keen to sell them and receive anything resembling a fair margin for doing so.

                              I think the Aeropress is "worth" about $10 maybe $20 tops and I'd feel guilty taking a margin on it which is why we always sold it at cost to the CoffeeSnobs members as a service and "every other outlet in Australia" wouldn't know unless they specifically looked here.


                              I'm not going to drop any sleep not selling the Aeropress and at zero margin but how much is a "fair margin" for passing a box across?


                              Surely you don't have to squeeze every last cent out of your customers on everything you do, the all mighty dollar isn't as important to us as being fair is.

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