NEWBIE seeking enlightenment
After crunching my way thru the WWW my dilemma is just as great now as it was before I started this journey..... This is my first post here as a bonifide Snob.
Briefly I went searching an improvement on my Saeco Espresso Magic that has encounted a few problems lately. First instinct was to chase a Silvia , most affordable but has since been crossed off the list . Thats the problem "The List " is lacking clarity.
My Usage.... Always 2 espressos per day sometimes 3 , plus wifey goes for about 3 flat whites on the weekend. That equals about 18-20 Espressos + 3 FWs per week...... Single boiler machine is the G O ( I think)
DONT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TEMP SURFING and REPEATED FLUSHING
The List....... Vibiemme Piccolo / Isomac Venus / Bezzera BZ99s used. All within a $1.3k ish budget. But all have their negatives as I see it , hopefully other Snobbers can set me straight. This is how I see it..!!!
Piccolo
Small water tank , no auto boiler priming , even with E61 group it sounds to me that it needs a temp control /PID.... and there are plenty of disgruntled users on this site , who feel they cant get the full potential out of this little beauty.I have checked Erics Temp gauge mod,...this stuff should be done at factory.
On the plus side , I like the idea of a 700ml boiler , just about the right trade off for my usage,and the E61 has got to be a bonus at this level.
If you have one of these Piccolos please add your 2cents worth and set me right about these things.
Venus
Probably should have a PID control ,( shouldnt every machine above $500, would cost manufacturers xtra $40, if that ) 400ml boiler is only just enough & almost equal with Silvia. Is it a step above the Silvia? Not an E61 , but probably OK.Tank size is good..... Just not convinced..!!
BZ99S
Probably too much machine for my basic and simple tastes and low volume. More than double the boiler size and a Hx rig with good size tank . No E61 and no temp info , likewise should have PID I reckon , but these machines can be bought used at the right price..... Do they deliver primo espresso, and how long do they need to warm up a 1.5ltr boiler?
I actually like all 3 of these choices , probably in order , Piccolo,BZ99,Venus, but until I part with the cash Im open to all options , endless web searching , and would greatly appreciate all CS input and opinions. At this stage Im not uder pressure from wifey to buy BUT ,"just GET IT RIGHT" :-/
"yes dear" ....."another flat white coming up"
Cheers from Nth Coast NSW....
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After crunching my way thru the WWW my dilemma is just as great now as it was before I started this journey..... This is my first post here as a bonifide Snob.
Briefly I went searching an improvement on my Saeco Espresso Magic that has encounted a few problems lately. First instinct was to chase a Silvia , most affordable but has since been crossed off the list . Thats the problem "The List " is lacking clarity.
My Usage.... Always 2 espressos per day sometimes 3 , plus wifey goes for about 3 flat whites on the weekend. That equals about 18-20 Espressos + 3 FWs per week...... Single boiler machine is the G O ( I think)
DONT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TEMP SURFING and REPEATED FLUSHING
The List....... Vibiemme Piccolo / Isomac Venus / Bezzera BZ99s used. All within a $1.3k ish budget. But all have their negatives as I see it , hopefully other Snobbers can set me straight. This is how I see it..!!!
Piccolo
Small water tank , no auto boiler priming , even with E61 group it sounds to me that it needs a temp control /PID.... and there are plenty of disgruntled users on this site , who feel they cant get the full potential out of this little beauty.I have checked Erics Temp gauge mod,...this stuff should be done at factory.
On the plus side , I like the idea of a 700ml boiler , just about the right trade off for my usage,and the E61 has got to be a bonus at this level.
If you have one of these Piccolos please add your 2cents worth and set me right about these things.
Venus
Probably should have a PID control ,( shouldnt every machine above $500, would cost manufacturers xtra $40, if that ) 400ml boiler is only just enough & almost equal with Silvia. Is it a step above the Silvia? Not an E61 , but probably OK.Tank size is good..... Just not convinced..!!
BZ99S
Probably too much machine for my basic and simple tastes and low volume. More than double the boiler size and a Hx rig with good size tank . No E61 and no temp info , likewise should have PID I reckon , but these machines can be bought used at the right price..... Do they deliver primo espresso, and how long do they need to warm up a 1.5ltr boiler?
I actually like all 3 of these choices , probably in order , Piccolo,BZ99,Venus, but until I part with the cash Im open to all options , endless web searching , and would greatly appreciate all CS input and opinions. At this stage Im not uder pressure from wifey to buy BUT ,"just GET IT RIGHT" :-/
"yes dear" ....."another flat white coming up"
Cheers from Nth Coast NSW....
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