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  • vicroamer
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    All very strange I often keep mine on during the day no problems. If you get it going again fit a new brew thermostat. if you dont fit a PID, for the time being I suggest you fit a digital thermometer as per the gronk thread here not only as an aid to temp surfing but also so you can monitor boiler temp.
    [edit]Also fit a new cutout thermostat[/edit]

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  • WSullivan
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    i personally would be taking it back to jetblack to see if they can find a problem......simple electronics in the silvia.....should be an obvious problem to an expert.....which they are

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  • BRoche
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Originally posted by 1F3E353532285B0 link=1255862981/19#19 date=1265443832
    Originally posted by 5A4A777B707D180 link=1255862981/11#11 date=1264897741
    then used the hot water to make tea
    I wouldnt be using a Silvia to make tea.
    Well it was on when I have a visitor who only drinks tea , first time for the machine.
    It is on a surge board. As the espresso temp seems to be right (doesnt taste bad or burnt at all, all Im going with atm is the steam temp. I do remember when we got in, the steam was good, but after the first repair it seemed to be super charged. As it was repaired by a sponsor I thought it was just one of those things.
    Not having anything to compare to, when I did hit the steam switch, it will heat up to temp, light would go off, as soon as I open up the valve to do the milk the light will come on again, and stay on during the whole time Im doing the milk (around 400ml), just before I get to temp, is when I switch off the steam switch.
    If it was over heating when steaming, wouldnt the thermal switch trip?
    Thx

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  • A_M
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    San Marino CK
    Originally posted by 4D60646865090 link=1255862981/20#20 date=1265455879
    The only proviso, is that the so-called Surge Protectors are well designed and rated appropriately for the protection they claim to provide....

    Mal.
    Reality is another thing

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  • Dimal
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Originally posted by 54797B7D707175180 link=1255862981/17#17 date=1265441312
    Maybe AM or Mal or someone electrically minded might know, but would a power spike or fluctuation cause a problem?
    No real benefit for something like a Silvia as I believe the only electronics to be found is a Diode embedded in the Pump Solenoid. Given this very stressful environment, the Diode is obviously sufficiently highly rated that Line Spikes would present little problem.

    Originally posted by 54797B7D707175180 link=1255862981/17#17 date=1265441312
    I know Ive got the fridges, computers etc all on surge protector boards but should our coffee machines be on one too????
    Given all the Electronics to be found in these and similar devices, it is sound insurance to protect them with properly designed Surge/Spike Arrestor hardware.

    HX/Dual Boiler Espresso Machines and a few Grinders do have Electronic Systems to make them both easier to use and protect the hardware itself. Where you have equipment of this type, you should also be using the protection hardware mentioned above. The only proviso, is that the so-called Surge Protectors are well designed and rated appropriately for the protection they claim to provide....

    Mal.

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  • Dennis
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    Originally posted by 5A4A777B707D180 link=1255862981/11#11 date=1264897741
    then used the hot water to make tea
    I wouldnt be using a Silvia to make tea.

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  • TC
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    This might be out there, but is there any chance you have a defective machine and 2 x high temp steam thermostats? One should be labelled 107 deg and the other and the other should be about 135 deg. The thermal reset with the red pin is 147deg as I recall. Assuming that you are doing everything right, it sounds to like there is an issue in the brew circuit

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  • Lacehim
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Maybe AM or Mal or someone electrically minded might know, but would a power spike or fluctuation cause a problem?

    I know Ive got the fridges, computers etc all on surge protector boards but should our coffee machines be on one too????

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  • BRoche
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Im going to find out the the cost to just do the element, then will go from there.
    When the boiler was replaced wouldnt the thermostats be checked?
    Looking at the Silvia there is not much in the way of electrics, all wiring checks out fine, going to look up to see if there is a way to test the thermostats.
    Thx

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  • Lacehim
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    How much does the boiler weigh and did Chris give you a price for a new tapped element?

    It does sound like there is something else going wrong with it.

    What do you want to spend on it? I really think if you are going to the bother of putting yet another boiler in you should get the machine checked out properly to make sure the thermostats & electrics are all good.

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  • BRoche
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Sorry for late reply, email notification not working?
    It was twice fixed by JetBlack, third time by a friend who use to repair them for a living, it does have a reset switch but it hasnt popped.
    Unless the its broken, but I cant see any reason for it to over heat, unless the thermo stat is broken?
    I only left it on for a couple of hours on the weekends to make around 4 cups of coffee in the morning of the weekends. Always gave the steaming wand a tighten, and had a cup under it (never got enough water to cover the bottom of the cup) I now have 2 brass boilers in the garage.
    Any one in Sydney that can replace the element as I think shipping them down to Melbourne and back might take the savings out of it unless its a lot cheaper then $160 per boiler??

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  • reubster
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Are you leaving the machine on for long periods of time?
    When you switch on the next day, are you in the habit of tightening the steam wand?

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  • Lacehim
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Only you can really decided if its worth repairing. You might beable to get something back by selling it for parts if you dont want to repair it. I read somewhere on here that Chris from talk coffee knows someone that can replace just the element rather the brass boiler itself.

    Does yours have the reset button???

    Also might be worth getting the unit checked out by a sponsor. There might be something else that is causing the problem, like the thermostats or an electrical fault.

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  • BRoche
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Well that element didnt last long.
    I am not sure what I should do with it now.
    I am VERY sure it was well looked after this time, as I was the only person to use it. I always refilled it after steaming. I got into the habit of switching the steam off just before the milk hit the right temp. Then once the milk was finished, hit the hot water pump till water started coming out.
    The last thing I did was to clean it (back flush) then made a shot to make sure cleaner was flushed out, then used the hot water to make tea (so no steam at all) all looked Ok when I turned it off (just finished heating after cup of tea).
    This machine is up to its 4th boiler now. Well I dont know now if its worth it at all. I just dont know why this one went. Only made coffee on the weekends, so very light work.
    Any ideas before I bin it?
     

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  • BRoche
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    Re: Silvia problem.

    Well this is how it turned out.
    I went to get the above, the kid behind the counter had NFI of what I wanted and gave me this http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AX3684&CATID=15&form=CAT&SUBCAT ID=645 for the same price. I remembered that you said about the vibrations, so I thought this would be a good thing to try being a Acoustic Sound Absorbing Deadening Material.
    Hard to install, (know a few thing about installing self adhesives) but the sound and vibrations have decreased a lot. I have only done the hole back panel that you can remove, and under the flap that sticks out over the pump. I would say the sound level has dropped a bit above half of what it was. More application to other panels may help, but Im happy at the moment.
    Next PID upgrade.

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