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  • Its all in the grind, sareant...

    Ok, so its about as dodgy as a line gets and it comes from the movie "Black Hawk Down" where theyre out in the battlefield and one of the Privates make a coffee for one of the Sergeants...

    But I digress...

    We were given some Merlo coffee for Christmas and it was raved about but knowing we dont have a grinder,  :exclamation they had the beans ground for us.

    Now, when I go to put it into my EM6910, I pack as hard as I can  ( :exclamation  :exclamation )and I cant seem to get it to make the gauge rise to anywhere near what Ive been able to with (another brand) of coffee grinds. And the coffee tastes washed out - and Ive increased from 2 to 3, maybe 4, cups a day to get the same caffeine hit Im used to.

    I fear that the grind may be too harsh for my machine (hence the dodgy movie quote from an otherwise exceptional movie).

    Can I put these coffee grinds through the double walled insert for my group head and will that improve the coffee, or do I just grin and bear it until Ive used it all?

    With thanks,
    Middo

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    Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

    Originally posted by 6D6964646F000 link=1263296574/0#0 date=1263296574
    Can I put these coffee grinds through the double walled insert for my group head
    Yes you can use the double walled baskets; thats what they are for, pre-ground coffee.

    Originally posted by 6D6964646F000 link=1263296574/0#0 date=1263296574
    will that improve the coffee
    Only you can answer that by tasting it.

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    • #3
      Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

      Originally posted by 605C415A505146535B50340 link=1263296574/1#1 date=1263299209
      Originally posted by 6D6964646F000 link=1263296574/0#0 date=1263296574
      Can I put these coffee grinds through the double walled insert for my group head
      Yes you can use the double walled baskets; thats what they are for, pre-ground coffee.

      Originally posted by 6D6964646F000 link=1263296574/0#0 date=1263296574
      will that improve the coffee
      Only you can answer that by tasting it.
      TG was being kind....

      As stated time and time again by many here...

      Grean beans should be ok for up to about 3 years

      Roasted beans for about 3 weeks post date of roast ( depending on how they are handled..) If ya start using at 3 weeks, then the vast majority will be stale by 4 weeks)

      Ground beans will last about 3 min... Now some say 30 sec, but I recon 3 min is good... 30min = bin.

      Why persist with stale coffee... Fake crema is still fake..

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      • #4
        Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

        Yes...either it wasnt ground fine enough to begin with or its now stale.

        Dont blame Merlot for that as they are good at what they do

        The Solution? Invest in a cheap(ish) burr grinder and enjoy super fresh coffee for many years to come.

        Luke.

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        • #5
          Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

          The double walled seems to have tidied up a bit but I still think you might be right: the coffee has gone stale by sitting in a hot, closed house over the Christmas/New Year period.

          Unfortunately, for the time being, even a cheap grinder is beyond the budget - until I get some regular income. So, unless someone has some PHP/MySQL stuff that needs doing...

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          • #6
            Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

            Originally posted by 4A4E434348270 link=1263296574/4#4 date=1263344587
            The double walled seems to have tidied up a bit but I still think you might be right: the coffee has gone stale by sitting in a hot, closed house over the Christmas/New Year period.

            Unfortunately, for the time being, even a cheap grinder is beyond the budget - until I get some regular income. So, unless someone has some PHP/MySQL stuff that needs doing...
            Double floor / pressurised baskets make FAKE cream and introduce fine air bubbles and agitation to fake it..

            "sitting in a hot, closed house over the Christmas/New Year period"

            Is only part of it.... Search and read all abou the rule of 3 (three). Years / weeks / seconds..

            STALE.

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            • #7
              Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

              Originally posted by 547B72706758747B74727078707B61150 link=1263296574/5#5 date=1263364078
              Originally posted by 4A4E434348270 link=1263296574/4#4 date=1263344587
              The double walled seems to have tidied up a bit but I still think you might be right: the coffee has gone stale by sitting in a hot, closed house over the Christmas/New Year period.

              Unfortunately, for the time being, even a cheap grinder is beyond the budget - until I get some regular income. So, unless someone has some PHP/MySQL stuff that needs doing...  
              Double floor / pressurised baskets make FAKE cream and introduce fine air bubbles and agitation to fake it..

              "sitting in a hot, closed house over the Christmas/New Year period"

              Is only part of it....  Search and read all abou the rule of 3 (three).  Years / weeks / seconds..

              STALE.
              But they will slow down the extraction and therefore get more coffee taste. The only thing is its no longer real espresso as the coffee itself is not causeing the pressure.

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              • #8
                Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

                Oh, I hear you all but we have no money to buy even the cheapest grinder so we will just slug this lot out and get fresher coffee later and a grinder (looking seriously at the EM0480, to match the machine) when I get some regular work.

                The other coffee we buy seems to do alright in the freezer when its in its air tight bag, even after being ground at the store.

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                • #9
                  Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

                  Or ask them to grind it for an espresso machine with an unpressurised basket (fine grind). With a bit of luck you might get something resembling the right grind size.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

                    Originally posted by 46424F4F442B0 link=1263296575/7#7 date=1263440790
                    Oh, I hear you all but we have no money to buy even the cheapest grinder so we will just slug this lot out and get fresher coffee later and a grinder (looking seriously at the EM0480, to match the machine) when I get some regular work.
                    Remember the 0450 is internally the same and a bit cheaper.

                    The other coffee we buy seems to do alright in the freezer when its in its air tight bag, even after being ground at the store.
                    It actually doesnt do all right. Just wait until you taste fresh beans, ground well and immediately made into a coffee.

                    Greg

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                    • #11
                      Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

                      Originally posted by 44716664546C716E626F67030 link=1263296575/9#9 date=1263547866

                      The other coffee we buy seems to do alright in the freezer when its in its air tight bag, even after being ground at the store.
                      It actually doesnt do all right.  Just wait until you taste fresh beans, ground well and immediately made into a coffee.

                      Greg
                      Well, I struggled on with the ground beans until it happened and it would appear patience is a virtue...

                      Now that we have actually gone out and spent the money - or should I say my benevolent father-in-law got sick of the whinging aand went out and bought for us - I dare say you are right. Immediately ground coffee is infinitly more tasty than pre-ground and stored coffee.

                      Now weve sent said benevolent father-in-law in search of beans to try!

                      Everyone should get themselves a father-in-law like mine! (He keeps telling us that hes got nothing else to spend his money on. Ah well, Ill find plenty!)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Its all in the grind, sareant...

                        Originally posted by 72767B7B701F0 link=1263296575/10#10 date=1269213210
                        I dare say you are right. Immediately ground coffee is infinitly more tasty than pre-ground and stored coffee.
                        Hallelujah - youve seen the light!

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