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I wouldnt do anything too rash right away... My parents have got a single group ex-commercial (something Spanish, cant remember what it is) with a 5 odd litre boiler, HX etc. and I really cant taste that much repeatable difference in my coffees on the combi, and cleanup/production time for one or two drinks isnt THAT different between the two, it really only takes an extra minute or two.
If youre itching to spend some money on coffee improvement, why dont you take a barista course? Get a good roaster? PID your combi? Get a custom Pullman tamper? I reckon doing this sort of thing will give you much better in-cup improvement than blowing cash on another machine so soon after getting the first..
I find it very hard to believe that ANYONE could have outgrown a decent single boiler machine after half a kilo of beans!!
Originally posted by 302D363F580 link=1281514503/12#12 date=1281620831
Thanks for all the replies
chris and AM have made very valid pionts and pretty much helped answer the question I was after
but some of those bling bling HX machines are just pure coffee porn and soo hard to resist ;D
just picked up another fresh batch of beans from dennis at cuppacoffee today - time for a midnight cuppa and spend some more time with lelit
Hung I was surprised to read your post just a few hours after our conversation telling me how much you enjoyed the coffee from the Lelit.
A good thing you sent your non-coffee drinking wife (lol) in to pick up the coffee and other bits - otherwise if it were you I think you would have walked out with an Alex Duetto! :
Another good thing about the Lelits is that if and when you decide to upgrade, as long as its been cared for, you wont need to trade it in - it will sell on CS in a heartbeat.
Originally posted by 5449525B3C0 link=1281514503/0#0 date=1281514503
after owning a sunbeam 6910 for over 9 months I really struggled to get a decent coffee from it yes it was fine to drink , i tried everything ,but the sunbeam did not like me at all
Originally posted by 5449525B3C0 link=1281514503/0#0 date=1281514503
but I do have ONE delema Im am now Hooked and wanting more
Ive used a Sunbeam at work extensively over the last 4 years or so and at home have an HX machine.
From my experience, what you said about struggling to get a decent coffee out of the Sunbeam could be many factors.
Assuming the machine was working properly it could have been stale beans, an inadequate grinder or the operator.
The Sunbeam can make excellent coffee.
Now that youve spent money on the Lelit, I recommend you stick at it and get your moneys worth.
When (and if) you find it can no longer keep up with you, that would would be the time to upgrade.
However, if you can live with the monetary loss, then make yourself feel better and go get yourself a "Canon 5DMK2" equivalent coffee machine.
No use crying over split milk.
One must learn from ones mistakes or else one is doomed to keep reliving them.
Like I said earlier Hung, if you can afford to, just do it, you know you wont be happy until you have the ultimate shiny espresso monster sitting on your bench, with an appropriate top of the range grinder of course.
I sympathise hung. My forays into snobdom followed a similar route: off-the-shelf appliance type -> single boiler dual purpose -> HX
Im afraid Dr. Charlie is right - you have upgraditis and youve got it bad. There is no cure as he mentions. Ive been eyeing off the Izzo Duetto Alex whenever I venture to Cuppacoffee and those inconsiderate CSers who kept mentioning their conical grinders.
He has pronounced the correct treatment - the Giotto I bought has greatly relieved the itch and I havent experienced any rash buying decisions for some time now.
Maybe upgrade now (you know you wanna) while the Lelit is still relatively new and you can get a good price for it. You could refine your technique on the Lelit but your needs have increased.
I should add that I struggled with my single boiler machine for about 9 months but hit gold when I bought the Giotto. After that, I realised what I was doing wrong in my coffee prep with the single boiler.
Originally posted by 083D3037031F333A3A39395C0 link=1281514503/9#9 date=1281604197
perhaps you were not well guided through the pros and cons of your choice and the characteristics of the class.
There is as much chance that this happened as there is of George Clooney winning the next WBC using stale pod coffee and a latte art stencil.
Originally posted by 3429323B5C0 link=1281514503/0#0 date=1281514503
the good thing is I now drink 3 to 4 day to make up for lost coffee
but I do have ONE delema Im am now Hooked and wanting more
Im afraid the diagnosis here is clear. Hung, you have Upgraditis and there is no cure. The good news is that the symptoms are treatable at your local site sponsor using retail therapy or a trade-in procedure.
In fact, for the next few weeks, we will happily accept trade-ins of good quality single boiler machines (eg lelit or silvia) on HX or twin boiler machines. No appointment required.
In 12 months time youll probably get the same amount for it as if you tried to sell it tomorrow. Besides, in 12 months time the bling will be even better, but as AM says, it wont necessarily mean youre going to get a better cup.
In the meantime, enjoy the coffee and some windowshopping!
Originally posted by 5C696463574B676E6E6D6D080 link=1281514503/9#9 date=1281604197
HI Hung,
Sounds like you may have acted in haste when you purchased? Alternately, perhaps you were not well guided through the pros and cons of your choice and the characteristics of the class. You sell now and you have a massive depreciation rate. One thing though is its a good time to sell as there is no stock in Sydney and we are out til next week. You would lose the GST component + perhaps a hundred more as the machine has been used? :-/
You will find it easier with a well chosen HX machine, but there is no reason you shouldnt get an excellent result out of your present machine.
Good luck either way.
Chris
TC has called it well; then again, you need to ask your self... Will you ever be happy with what ever you get...
Rembering that HX is not the end of the road and that there is always more bling ;D
My gut says - Stick with what you got... And concentrate on understanding Coffee and what makes it tick...
A better machine will not always give better coffee - you need to be at one with all the variables...
Even the 6910 (you struggled with ) can give great coffee if you treat it right...
Originally posted by 607D666F080 link=1281514503/0#0 date=1281514503
after owning a sunbeam 6910 for over 9 months I really struggled to get a decent coffee from it yes it was fine to drink , i tried everything ,but the sunbeam did not like me at all
I would suggest that maybe you did not fully understand the unit; or maybe even your current machine... It takes time and patience - You rush = You loose $$$ and also get poor coffee.
Count to 110 and breath with the moon and the sun it all about getting the phases and the balance... You know you can do it
Sounds like you may have acted in haste when you purchased? Alternately, perhaps you were not well guided through the pros and cons of your choice and the characteristics of the class. You sell now and you have a massive depreciation rate. One thing though is its a good time to sell as there is no stock in Sydney and we are out til next week. You would lose the GST component + perhaps a hundred more as the machine has been used? :-/
You will find it easier with a well chosen HX machine, but there is no reason you shouldnt get an excellent result out of your present machine.
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