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  • Help Wanted: Old Silvia Steam Arm- or another option?

    I am repairing a Sama lever machine. The steam and water arms are junk. I want to keep the valves and am trying to figure out how to change over the tube parts. I think the connection is 1/2 inch- or 18mm?- I am not sure of the exact measurement- it is the standard size throughout the Sama machine. The parts need to come out of the machine at a very specific angle- so far the old V1 Silvia arm is the closest shape I have seen. If I cant find something off the shelf- does anyone know how I could get some made?

    here is the original Sama steam arm:






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    Re: Help Wanted: Old Silvia Steam Arm- or another option?

    silvia steam arm may be a possibility, I have spare silvia steam arm from a v2 if it helps!

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      Re: Help Wanted: Old Silvia Steam Arm- or another option?

      hello there Roz,

      is the V the current model? I know that the latest one has a larger attachment for the steam tube to the valve body. If it is the smaller earlier one I would love to try it out...

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        Re: Help Wanted: Old Silvia Steam Arm- or another option?

        The sylvia Mod nearly worked (thanks Roz) but the size just isnt right. I tried with Ponte Vecchio parts but just snapped them...

        So I am back to square one.

        I am resurrecting this thread because I need to find someone (gas fitter? plumber? tinker?) who can bend some pipes for me to make some steam and water arms for my vintage Sama lever machines. I now have 3 machines in various states of restoration: to finish them all I need to get new pipes made as the originals are an amazingly bad design- and near useless (pictured at the top of this thread).

        The steam tubes I need have several severe bends, and will need to be threaded at one end to accept a suitable steam  or water nozzle. At the other end thay need to have a fitting like at the ones pictured above.

        As I need 3 of each I would be happy to pay someone to make 10 or more of each (if it was economical) and I will stock them as replacement parts for the tiny handful of users around the world who have these vintage machines and need a decent steam arm.

        I dont know what material would be suitable but I would be happy with plain copper if it could work.

        Here is what the steam arm might look like- and also some pictures of a vintage Bezzera machine (a clone of the Sama) that already had the type of steam arm I am after, and a picture of the Sama with its inferior arms. It is hard to tell in the picture- but the Sama is small- and there is very little clearance below the steam arm. You cant fit jarge jugs under it without tipping the milk out... Also the steam nozzle hole is around 4 MM! it just blasts milk out of the jug. The water nozzle is similar- almost unusable :











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