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  • #16
    Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

    Hi muzzi

    Im a fellow Sunbeam owner, so I share your pain with this problem also! As matty has said, I also hold the pf in during every shot, and have had the horrible experience of broken cups, and burns from coffee grounds attacking my face! That happens once, and you soon learn to never let go of that bloody handle. As for the filter baskets... I took mattys advice and replaced it with krups baskets (I got a single and a double filter posted to my door for $12 about a month ago!) Definatly the best money I have spent in a long time, it totally transformed my espresso! It was like I had a new machine, the difference really was quite amazing.

    Ben

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    • #17
      Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

      Thats great news Mearesy!
      WHO did you talk to and exactly WHAT did you order? I actually took my portafiller into the store but had no luck finding one that whould fit. Did you also have the EM5800?
      $12.... My replacment Sunbeam dual wall ones cost me more than that and I had to go and pick them up!
      Matt

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      • #18
        Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

        Hi Matt
        No mate, I have the "Cafe Crema" (lucky me, hey? :-?) What I did was call the National number for Krups - (61) 2 97 48 79 44. I then asked them where my nearest service centre for krups is, and they gave me contact details for them. I live in Toowoomba, SE QLD and so my nearest service centre was on the gold coast.

        So.. gave them a call and asked if I could order part #0907163 which is the double filter basket. I also asked if they were able to source the single filter basket as well, and they were able to find out what part number that was and ordered me both. Sorry, but Im not sure what the part number is for the single. A week or so later, they arrived in the mail and a grin came over my face as I poured my first wonderfuly improved non-pressurised shot

        Hope that helps! All credit goes to mattyj on this one, he told me everything I have written here, so thanks matty! Certianly worth the effort in tracking one down though, I cannot stress enough the difference it made to my shots!

        Ben

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        • #19
          Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

          Originally posted by Mearesy link=1128380756/15#17 date=1128422651
          All credit goes to mattyj on this one, he told me everything I have written here, so thanks matty!  Certianly worth the effort in tracking one down though, I cannot stress enough the difference it made to my shots!

          Ben
          No worries! It was really good to get that email from you when the basket first arrived - you were soooo stoked, and that was reward enough for me.

          FC, before I tried a krups basket, I pulled a basket out of a saeco machine in Myers, walked over to a sunbeam, took its basket out and tried to fit the saeco basket into the portafilter - it was a mm or so too big (width-wise). That was my first line of thinking, until I saw a friends krups, which had a similar basket, and just happened to fit like a glove.

          As for the pressure blowing out the pf, Im no physicist, but what Java said matches my experience. Ive noticed that with the blind basket in on my expobar, I can move the pf a bit, until the pressure builds up, then theres no way it will move ... which was exactly the opposite to the sunbeam.

          Also, another thing I was noticing on the sunbeam was that fine grounds were able to work themselves into a gap between the seal and the edge of the shower screen, over a little lip on the upper side of the shower screen, and from there outside the pf. If it wasnt cleaned out every week, the grounds would open up the seal a bit more, and it would leak all the time.

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          • #20
            Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

            Wow! This thread has turned into a gold mine! Thanks for all the information guys! I really appreciate it!

            I have decided I will be sticking to this machine for now I think. I will find some krups baskets and just hold the pf. I will put a few dollars away a week and get a silvia when the time is right

            I really am stoked at the amount of information you guys have provided! Thank you all so much

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            • #21
              Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

              Glad to be able to help Muzzi!

              Ben

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              • #22
                Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                Hi Guys,

                Dont know whether they would be a direct swap fit or not, but the La Spaziale S1 uses 53mm baskets, with the double holding about 18 grams of coffee... that would be a delightfully rich brew. Might be too deep to fit in a Sunbeam PF though, would have to be checked out. Anyway, might be another option ...

                Mal.

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                • #23
                  Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                  Just in case anyone needs this information...

                  Part number for the Krups non-pressurised double basket is MS0907163, $11.12+GST.
                  Number for the non-pressurised single basket is MS0925592, $13.84+GST

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                    Originally posted by joe-camel link=1128380756/15#22 date=1149484261
                    Just in case anyone needs this information...

                    Part number for the Krups non-pressurised double basket is MS0907163, $11.12+GST.
                    Number for the non-pressurised single basket is MS0925592, $13.84+GST
                    I am just picking up my 4th Krups #0907163 coffee basket as it makes all the diference.

                    We have also looked at the timing of the pump in Steam Mode and have changed the standard cycle rate of some 600ms to about 900ms and the diference in dryness etc is just great. Kualityman is doing some further testing at the moment and I am guessing that the cct on most of the low end EM range is the same.

                    At the end of the day, the Krups filter basket and the change to the steam makes the EM4800 etc a great unit.



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                    • #25
                      Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                      I bought my EM5800 a month ago. I work in cafes and restaurants and have been well trained in the art of coffee, though I am no Barista, merely a lowly chef : ( . In my experience (15 years in the industry as a chef, 7 years as a head chef), Ive recently discovered the Cafe Series from Sunbeam - an Australian company that designs this series for semi-commercial and home purposes - though manufactured in China, the same as Breville, even the wording on the packaging is identical, does Sunbeam own Breville, or vis-a-versa?

                      I have had nothing but  better than Cafe coffee from this machine. Mind you, most coffee shop employees wouldnt know a good coffee if they fell over it. Disclaimer - I live in Hervey Bay (QLD), not the centre of the coffee world i.e. Melbourne and Sydney. Most coffees here taste of coffee and heated milk, not the velvety smooth texture that I can produce from this low cost machine ($319 from The Good Guys, Hervey Bay). Anyhow, Ive always noticed that this machine vibrates a lot, which didnt worry me until today, the group handle vibrated right off the machine and into my cup! Oh well, I guess Ill be holding the handle from now on. [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

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                      • #26
                        Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                        Ive had this machine for just under 2 months and so far its been a great unit, coffee is brilliant and certainly better than that mass produced GJs.

                        There is a problem that has raised its ugly head though, when the Espresso is pouring from the machine, after about 2 seconds, it goes to a high pressure spit rather than a pour, this ruins the crema and it makes the taste quite bitter.

                        It never did this when new and the coffee that it is pouring at the moment is quite weak as you have to can the Espresso before it starts to spit.

                        Please help!! What is going wrong and what will sort it?

                        Should i invest in a Krups basket, could that be the problem?

                        post edited by 2mcm....New members advised to keep it nice please

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                        • #27
                          Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                          Sounds like youre running into channeling problems. Check the puck for signs of channeling and if present work on your tamping skills.

                          Java "Gotta have the tamp down!" phile
                          Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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                          • #28
                            Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                            I have been battling the same problem with the same machine for the last 2-3 weeks, and today I managed to get a really nice result by really packing the portafilter and tamping down with a lot of pressure. I basically really leaned in during the tamp (I weigh 85 kgs) at the end, and before I had done packed the coffee in by using my thumb (from one side to the next).

                            Previously my pucks had channeling signs on the sides, but this time it just had the indentation from the screw that holds the brewing head, and nothing else! I hope to soon get a pullman tamper that will make tamping a bit easier, but this looks like a quick fix.

                            I agree that this problem was not present from the beginning, but appears after a few weeks. Not sure why that is though. Hope this helps.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                              Well funnily enough i just pulled the best shot in weeks

                              I did exactly that, really put alot of weight onto it, probably 30kgs of weight and al that was left was a sign of the screw hole from the head and certainly no channelling.

                              Is this machine just fussy with a tamping technique or was I just doing it wrong from the start and fluking it...

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sunbeam Cafe Aromatic (EM5800) Problems

                                Originally posted by Blaqjaq link=1128380756/15#28 date=1160212699
                                Is this machine just fussy with a tamping technique or was I just doing it wrong from the start and fluking it...
                                Are you using a good quality grinder to grind the beans immediately prior to brewing or are you using preground beans? If the latter then thats a problem.

                                With any halfway decent espresso machine the tamp is critical as are several other steps in the process (like having a good grinder). Failure of any one of those steps will prevent you from obtaining a great shot, let alone being able to do it consistantly.

                                Java "Espresso is a process, a very exacting one." phile
                                Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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