EM6910 v Silvia v the world!

[marcstolk]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

Im still to decide on what baskets I should try though. I guess it will be a bit of trial and error.

Any suggestions on brands and sizing

I think the smaller 7g (single) and 14g (double) LM baskets work... which is probably what Ill order later on ... Anyone else know?

[ozscott]

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Marc - I got standards when I had the EM6900. I kept those and they are ever so slightly smaller than the ones that came with the 6910. I have found though that the consistency and taste is better with the Sunbeam baskets for the 6910 - there is not much difference (unlike the 6900s quad sized double..) but enough to make a difference..I also like the single shape of the sunbeam single.

Cheers

[luca]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

Im still to decide on what baskets I should try though. I guess it will be a bit of trial and error.

Any suggestions on brands and sizing

Im currently using the ascaso/synesso ridgeless baskets. Theyre a dream to use simply because the puck pretty much always knocks out very cleanly and there is no ridge to wipe out. Whilst the ridged LM double also gets great results, it is much messier.

Cheers,

Luca

[marcstolk]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

Im still to decide on what baskets I should try though. I guess it will be a bit of trial and error.

Any suggestions on brands and sizing

Im currently using the ascaso/synesso ridgeless baskets.

Luca

I like this idea... I wonder if they fit in the Sunbeam PF?

[Wushoes]

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They will, but if the reason why youre wanting to change is because theyre ridgeless...so are the sunbeams (virtually!) they knock out just as cleanly

[ozscott]

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yep...the sunbeams knock out well - pretty rare to have a broken lip on the biscuit and one hit normally does it on the Bang Bang

[marcstolk]

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This is true...

Im just considering moving to 7gram/\/14 gram baskets....

[chris002200]

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Hmmm. some interesting points.

I might just have a play with a few and see how they go. The sunbeam baskets always knock out a well formed puck and there isnt that much mess left in the basket.

[Sparky]

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Bezzera baskets are ridgeless and have nice straight sidewalls. They also seem a tad deeper than some other doubles. They are easily obtained from Barazi (a site sponsor). You never know, they actually might be the same baskets as the Ascaso baskets that Luca is using. Whatever the case I really like thee baskets.

[Wushoes]

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The ridgeless baskets that Luca has arent straight walled like say an LM.

[gavinc]

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Maybe my scales are off, or maybe the EM just needs to be over dosed. Ive tried the LM ridged double (14g) and I still end up with a measured dose of ~20g in the basket.   One of the guys from Veneziano grabbed a shallow double (I didnt get the type, but was effectively ridgeless, maybe Luca can guess) and it doses to around 16g.  Not sure how much is imagined but I find the shots out of the larger doubles "richer" than the shallow basket.  The LM pours quicker than the sunbeam double so you can set a finer grind, but the sunbeam holds even more than the LM ~22g.  The cup quality seems to be similar between the LM and EM baskets, use slightly less coffee in the LM but the EM knocks out nice and clean.  These are just my observations as a noob, I dont have a refined enough palate to give a detailed analysis of the difference in the cup beyond saying that I usually prefer the larger sized baskets (could just be theyre more forgiving of my technique).

[Wushoes]

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Interestingly enough, there was a paper done on espresso extraction and its key finding was that overdosing did not lead to more solubles in the cup. I cant vouch for the scientific methods used, but the paper was an interesting read....not a light read by any stretch of the imagination!

[gavinc]

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What I should probably do is try the three one after the other using the same beans and adjusting the grind to get the pour time similar (EM0480, so I wouldnt be able to get it the same) and try them one after the other. Three shots one after the other is a little more than Id normally have and spitting shots out just seems wrong..

[Dimal]

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Gday Gavin,

There is consensus among the long-term fraternity of the alt.coffee newsgroup that up-dosed shots most often produce the richest and sweetest brews with all else being equal. I guess, in essence, what is happening is that for an equal pour time and rate, an up-dosed shot will be a semi-ristretto, for want of a better way to put it...... The extra dose of coffee means that you are mostly likely pulling the shot up short well before blonding is likely to start and therefore not introduce bitter elements into the brew. That alone has got to be a good thing ,

Mal.

[Sparky]

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The ridgeless baskets that Luca has arent straight walled like say an LM.

...and the Bezzera baskets arent straight walled like LM baskets. Top 2/3 straight, last third gentle curves in to the base.