EM6910 v Silvia v the world!

[reubster]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

Hi All,

SPARKY.......... Im in the basket market [struggling to source Ascaso] any chance of a photo of these Bezzerra babies?
Those "gentle curves" sure sound sexy.

Does anybody know if they are actually the same as the Ascaso?

[telemaster]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

Hi All,

SPARKY.......... Im in the basket market [struggling to source Ascaso] any chance of a photo of these Bezzerra babies?
Those "gentle curves" sure sound sexy.

Does anybody know if they are actually the same as the Ascaso?

These are they! The one one on the left is the coffeeparts 18g, the right is the bezzera/boema 14g. It came with my Bezzera, but appears to be identical with a rather stained older Boema one a friend gave me.
Brett

[robusto]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

I get the impression from numerous posts  about baskets  that some people experience problems knocking out pucks...

And that they have to be very straight sided, without ridges or all hell breaks loose.

Ive used nothing but the ridged, Rancilio basket which comes with the Silvia and have never had a problem.

First tap on the knock box and out it goes, clean as a whistle, one piece,  no remnants anywhere.

Are  we perhaps unfairly blaming basket design  for other problems?  Knocking technique perhaps?  or leaving the puck in the basket too long so it cakes on?

Just a thought.
--Robusto

[muppet_man67]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

I bought an rigdeless 14gm Lm off coffeeparts. (the one without original written next to it) I fit about 20gm in it for the silvia, I used to get about 16gm in the rancillio basket. taste wasnt a massive but I started playing with homeroasting at the same time so I put some other variables into the mix. shots take longer to go blonde and I now get tigerstriping which wasnt as evident before. They knock out clean too 8-).

[march]

rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA Venez

Greetings

I have no barista skills, but I sure love a good espresso. Ive decided to invest in a machine, my very first. I have a Sunbeam grinder EM0480 at the moment. What do you suggest I buy? What machine makes a consistently good cup and requires minimum barista skills?????

Ive read all the great reviews here about Rancilio and would love to get one. But fear I lack the necessary skills to enjoy its potential.

Your advice is appreciated.

Cheers

[Coffee_Kid]

Re: rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA V

Hey Welcome to CS!

You will find your skill after you get your machine, well thats how i got my skills You would probably end up choosing between the Sunbeam EM06910 or the Silvia, Theres some good discussions on which people prefer. But if it was me i would choose the silvia because it has better build quailty and the Sunbeam EM0480 grinder will work OK for the Silvia but would probably want to upgrade later anyway ;D

Hope it helps

[ozscott]

Re: rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA V

March - for me it was the EM6910 and many on this site like them. Many also like the Silvias. Can I reccomend that you spend a few hours looking through the site and you will see a lot of info on both. Make sure you get a good grinder - as a rule of thumb it should be around or more than the cost of a decent prosumer espresso machine.

Cheers and good hunting.

[Thundergod]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

I get some remnants in the ridge of my LM basket but have no problem removing the pucks first whack on the knock box.

[scoota_gal]

Re: rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA V

[smiley=thumbsup.gif] Good reply ozscott. Pretty spot on and I agree, March, that youd be well served by scouting round the forum and reading up. After all, thats what were about here on a internet forum - the sharing of information! And we seem to do it very well here, youve just got to be prepared to read a lot!

Good luck with your search.

[Coffee_Kid]

Re: rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA V

Make sure you get a good grinder - as a rule of thumb it should be around or more than the cost of a decent prosumer espresso machine.

Cheers and good hunting.

Haha scott,
If I got a $2500 machine then i would need a robur or a Swift?  :P ;D

Yay 250posts

[JavaB]

Re: rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA V

march,

Hi and welcome to CoffeeSnobs

All "normal" machines will require pretty much the same level of skills- these skills arent that hard to acquire - so dont think you cant / wont be able to do it. All it takes is practice - and attending a course is also a good idea.

There are only two classes of machines requiring less skills.

Firstly Super automatic (not for you as you already have a separate grinder). These grind the beans, load the "pf", tamp and extract - all by magic without human intervention - and the coffee from most of these isnt that great.

Secondly the cheap and middle range domestic machines with "crema enhancement". These have special baskets which pressurise the coffee and water to produce false crema - even from stale coffee. Tamp pressure isnt important neither is grind size very significant. Really fresh ground beans dont taste that much better when used with these than the supermarket "brick" ground coffee.... Overall these produce disappointing coffee.

So you really need to get a machine with normal baskets- and develop your skills- and you will soon be making great coffees. Dont be put off by comments which make the process look really hard - its not, and you will soon be glad you didnt buy an "easy to use" machine.

Enjoy the journey into great coffee.

[Viviane]

Re: EM6910 v the world!

I used ridged baskets and they knock out very clean. Not spotless, but nothing that a clean cloth wont fix.

[robusto]

Re: rancilio silvia, sunbeam em6910 or Saeco VIA V

Sorry, Scootagal, but I must disagree with your post: that a good grinder should cost as much if not more than the coffee machine.

A good grinder can be had for much less (Rancilio Silvia =$770; Iberital grinder $300).

Once you are paying $700 or more I doubt whether its the quality of grind you are outlaying big money for... but commercial quality build, the ability to churn out kilos of coffee per day.

For a domestic setting that is overkill.

--Robusto

[scoota_gal]

Re: EM6910 v Silvia v the world!

Sorry, Scootagal,  but I must disagree with your post:   that a good grinder should cost as much if not more than the coffee machine.


--Robusto

Eh? I was only saying that ozscotts comment about reading about here was a good reply. He was commenting on the grinder vs machine thing.  

[Thundergod]

Re: EM6910 v Silvia v the world!

And my Macap wants to know whats wrong with overkill?  :P

Seriously though Robusto, thats why I bought commercial quality.
I never expect to have to buy another grinder.
Its in my will for my daughter.