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  • #16
    Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

    Hey mate, just thought id chuck my 2c in as i have had this machine for 6 months as well and have pretty much only used the normal baskets (except for once or twice for testing purposes).

    First, dont bother with the single basket... you cant get a good cup out of it. Ive tried many many times.

    Using the double basket, i set my grind between 8 (average beans) to 12 (roasted 4-7 days ago). Remember this is just a guide as different beans yeild different results.
    With the amount, you have to pile the coffee up pretty high, then press down with your fingers (overlapping the filter basket, so its flat... if that makes sense), then i manually add a tiny bit more coffee by holding the group handle in for a couple of seconds.
    The reason for this is i cant get all the coffee needed in one grind as it will just pile up and fall off. I have the dose set at 45 degrees btw.

    I then tamp lightly, tap the side with the tamper 3 or 4 times, then tamp quite firmly and give the tamper a spin. The tamper should sit so that the stainless steel part of it cant be seen, but no lower.

    When i pull the shot it usually gets to about 3/4 pressure, and i can get around 1cm+ of crema with really fresh beans... and slightly less as they age.

    I can notice changing the grind higher by even 1 level will cause more pressure. So if this isnt happening with fresh beans... i would say its time to get it checked out :-[

    hope this helps.

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    • #17
      Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

      WTFUTA "Way better having stale and dry coffee"
      All a bit late now, but for the record, I failed to type the word "than".

      So, I should of wrote "Way better than having stale and dry coffee"

      Sorry for the confusion.

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      • #18
        Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

        Originally posted by 38392C393F35385C0 link=1262742562/15#15 date=1265179983
        Using the double basket, i set my grind between 8 (average beans) to 12 (roasted 4-7 days ago). Remember this is just a guide as different beans yeild different results.
        With the amount, you have to pile the coffee up pretty high, then press down with your fingers (overlapping the filter basket, so its flat... if that makes sense), then i manually add a tiny bit more coffee by holding the group handle in for a couple of seconds.
        The reason for this is i cant get all the coffee needed in one grind as it will just pile up and fall off. I have the dose set at 45 degrees btw.

        I then tamp lightly, tap the side with the tamper 3 or 4 times, then tamp quite firmly and give the tamper a spin. The tamper should sit so that the stainless steel part of it cant be seen, but no lower.
        I have followed this advice to the letter and the guage still goes way up outside the range and the pour is very dark.... I really want to make the unpressurised basket work for me!

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        • #19
          Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

          For my morning mug of coffee this is what works for me. For beans I get Harris black label dark roast from the, shock horror, supermarket! So Im in no way a true coffee snob!
          On the BES860:
          Use the two cup single wall filter.
          Grind dial to 10 +- depends on beans.
          Grind amount dial at 5 o’clock
          Filter size – single
          Firmish tamp
          Push double cup & do your milk thing.
          Hope this helps.

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          • #20
            Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

            Thanks bluesky, I will be eager to try your settings.

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            • #21
              Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

              Originally posted by 6B6174652E73696D70736F6E31000 link=1262742562/17#17 date=1291593582
              I have followed this advice to the letter and the guage still goes way up outside the range and the pour is very dark.... I really want to make the unpressurised basket work for me!
              You need a coarser grind.
              ...then try the same routine again.

              (Try and keep all the other variables the same and only change the grind).

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              • #22
                Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

                I have tried the coursest grind and a stupidly light tamp.... still over extracting. Am I dosing too much? Feel like Ive taken 2 steps forward and 5 backwards. I also think the tamp that comes with the BES860 is terrible.

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                • #23
                  Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

                  Originally posted by 797366773C617B7F62617D7C23120 link=1262742562/21#21 date=1292237602
                  Am I dosing too much?
                  Tricky to tell from a question on a web site but if the grind is course then too much coffee might be the problem.

                  What do the grinds feel like rubbed between your fingers? Should be something akin to fine salt and pepper.

                  Leave it on the coarse grind setting and try it with a level basket

                  Sounds like you need an under extracted shot to work back from.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Extraction Temperature

                    Hello

                    I am looking to purchase a Breville Fresca in the next week or so, however I would like some information from the pros on the extraction temperature of the machine. I cant seem to find any info on it on the net or Breville site.

                    I hope I dont offend all the Silvia lovers, but we have just sold ours after 1 1/2yrs, for a number of reasons. We dont have the bench space to buy the grinder, our good friend has the fresca and the coffee is cafe quality, we could never get the milk perfect with the Silvia ie it kept separating, and we know the fresh good quality beans are the answer for great coffee.

                    The guy that bought our machine is a coffee guru, he was going to add a PID to our machine, and that got me thinking about the temperature control for the Breville Fresca.

                    Would love some help here.

                    PS I am a first time blogger, and I love the site, thanks.

                    Kristy

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                    • #25
                      Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

                      Originally posted by 5E535C5952544150350 link=1262742562/23#23 date=1296774407
                      We dont have the bench space to buy the grinder
                      My problem too
                      Have you looked at the Lelit Combi?
                      JetBlack and Talk Coffee are sponsors who carry this machine

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                      • #26
                        Re: Breville Fresca BES860 Erratic Pour

                        Originally posted by 6D445645404F4F4844210 link=1262742562/24#24 date=1296775193
                        Have you looked at the Lelit Combi?  
                        JetBlack and Talk Coffee are sponsors who carry this machine
                        Welcome Kristy,

                        Cuppacoffee sell the Lelit too. If you found milk texture difficult with the Silvia, not much will change with the Lelit and many (most?) of the appliance machines will be worse again. Some quality training will overcome this problem as both machines do this quite well.

                        Good luck

                        2mcm

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