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  • #16
    Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

    Originally posted by 4B4A5D5D46434A572F0 link=1290589420/14#14 date=1290653151
    So whatchya reckon AM, are you up for some surgery ? Im on the inner west, ( graceville) so Im pretty close to the water treatment plant as the crow flies about ( 15 km) . We have noticed a different taste in the tap water.

    Is it easy enough to remove the steam thermoblock once the covers are off ? I assume this how the soaking is done ( in a bath of solution ) ?
    Follow cksyd process ...

    The issue is that the EM6900 had a copper lining and thus suffered but was easy to clean.

    The EM6910 is SS lined and as such you need teh temp set to high to get good steam. This also means that SCALE can and will be a problem unless ya water is good.

    The service agents in effect just use a syringe and manually pump and flush with a heavy duty descaler... No need to remove teh Steam thermoblock ( I would also not recommend - too much hard work).

    This way the issue of WHS and fumes etc is not an issue. But you have to get access to the fittings at teh inlet to teh steam thermoblock. BE CAREFUL as you can break things.

    That is why Sunbean do not recommend... As the fumes from some cleaning agents may be OK in a liquid BUT BAD when in a vapour and the USER desides to breath it all in ;D



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    • #17
      Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

      Ok , Ill descale the bejesus out of the steam side again and see what happens. Post back later.

      Cheers.

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      • #18
        Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

        By the way, now that it has sorted out the steam pump, Im now hooking into the shot/water pump as well as I assume it would be nearing the same problem.

        Long night ahead ;D

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        • #19
          Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

          Ok, all going well so far. I think I have been way too gentle descaling the steam side - untill now. Im using sunbeam liquid descaler and running the steam pump for 1 minute, tip off - close steam, 5 min break ( machine on ) then another 1 min burst and turn the machine off for 10 mins - repeated this proceedure 4 times now and the steam pump sound good - nice and consistant with good output. Im going to keep going for another 4 cycles before the fresh water flushing begins.

          Quick question AM, are the two thermoblocks the same ?

          Has anyone used C L R through a 6910. It says it is fine for SS but not copper or ally. It contains Sulfamic Acid ( not sulphuric acid ) ?

          I only ask because I noticed you ( AM) said that the steam thermoblock is SS and CLR is a kick ass heavy duty descaler.

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          • #20
            Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

            Looking and sounding excellent. I pulled about a litre of descaling solution through the wand and Im onto the flushing. Looks like coffee in the morning - woohoo.

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            • #21
              Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

              Originally posted by 2E2F383823262F324A0 link=1290589420/18#18 date=1290674430
              Quick question AM, are the two thermoblocks the same ?
              Quick answer = NO ;D


              Originally posted by 2E2F383823262F324A0 link=1290589420/18#18 date=1290674430
              Has anyone used C L R through a 6910. It says it is fine for SS but not copper or ally.
              Quick answer = NO ;D

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              • #22
                Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                Still flushing, still good. Re the CLR, might be worth investigating. What is the active ingredient in the other top line descalers ? The sunbeam liquid ( not that its top line ) uses citric acid.

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                • #23
                  Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                  Mr 55 / week is back in business. Thanks all for the input and help.

                  Moral of the story, go hard when descaling the steam side, but put in the time to flush properly.

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                  • #24
                    Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                    Originally posted by 272631312A2F263B430 link=1290589420/21#21 date=1290686341
                    CLR, might be worth investigating
                    NO... Due to flushing and reactions DO NOT use in an ESPRESSO MACHINE. Repeat - DO NOT USE!!!


                    Now if I had the block removed, a manual clean and flush and FLUSH might be OK. But NEVER insitue and NEVER added to a water tank....

                    PS.

                    Congrats Derrilex... Err Mr 55

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                    • #25
                      Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                      Party pooper ;D

                      Yeah I thought that might be the case with the CLR. If the block was on the bench I reckon it would be tops, but putting it through the pump/s and other bits might be a bit sus. Made 4 so far today and its going as well as I can remember.

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                      • #26
                        Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                        Originally posted by 575641415A5F564B330 link=1290589420/3#3 date=1290631408
                        This machine makes 55 milk based coffees a week.
                        Can I just say holy crap.

                        You should probably invest in a HX machine and maybe a cow!

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                        • #27
                          Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                          Originally posted by 222A323825410 link=1290589420/12#12 date=1290652448
                          Originally posted by 5F72320 link=1290589420/12#12 date=1290652170
                          If you ran the descaling solution through the steam system this may have caused your problem - Sunbeam caution against doing this in the manual.
                          Running Bombora Clean Machine Triple Action, not Sunbeam tablets so it is safe.

                          Never had this problem in the past.
                          Ah, fair enough. I use Sunbeam descaler (citric acid solution I believe) and Cafetto for backflushing, dont know how anyone could justify the cost of the Sunbeam tablets!

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                          • #28
                            Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                            So, seriously, do the good people out there think that 55 / week is a lot ? Has anyone else added up how many thier machines make / week ? Might scare some people. I dont consider it to be excessive at all, but it all adds up I guess. The 6910 handles it fine - its not like it makes 55 one after the other.

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                            • #29
                              Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                              Originally posted by 414057574C49405D250 link=1290589420/27#27 date=1290764137
                              So, seriously, do the good people out there think that 55 / week is a lot ? Has anyone else added up how many thier machines make / week ? Might scare some people. I dont consider it to be excessive at all, but it all adds up I guess. The 6910 handles it fine - its not like it makes 55 one after the other.
                              Me thinks your very cost effective

                              And while a HX and more $$$ could offer a machine with bling etc

                              WHY, if what you have does teh job... When it gets tired, get another one

                              I do maybe 60 a week on my DCM... But you could buy a lot of EM6910s for my one DCM. ( OH and I have 3 x EM6910s all just sitting doing nothing )


                              Keep up the good work....

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                              • #30
                                Re: 6910 - is this the end ?

                                I had one at work and it did a lot more than 55 a week.
                                15 from me for a start.

                                However it did need a new collar within 12 months.

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