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  • #16
    Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

    Thanks for your "contribution" Gary. :

    Firstly- A review of an "evaluation unit" does not a review make.
    Secondly- Regurgitating said review does not achieve anything whatsoever. These go to testers so that manufacturers can refine their product.

    If you have first hand experience with the machine, please enlighten us. If not, perhaps get some and write from an educated viewpoint rather than parroting that of a stranger.

    Although a tad rough around the edges, the GEE has no competitor until you hit HX territory and for the milk coffee drinker on a budget, it should be short listed.

    The GEE outperforms a non PID Silvia and the reviewer clearly didnt use it well or received a defective machine. You can go straight from shot to steam so long as you preheat the thermoblock. No single boiler machine will do this.

    The OP may choose to come and make his/her own evaluation and thats fine, however I am tired of self-appointed internet experts bad mouthing gear they havent even seen. If it was rubbish, it would not be on range.

    My GEE v any standard Silvia, or better still, you and your PID one if youre game- any time...

    Chris

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    • #17
      Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

      Thanks everyone for taking the trouble to reply. I was away for a few days. I am indeed contacting Talk Coffee and making an appointment; I see they reopen on Monday and will be met by a shiny new email from me.

      Im very interested to hear that the Silvia is only a sideways step. If anyone has time, can they enlighten me as to why? Its considerably more expensive and seems to be much better made. Do I need an entirely new operating system, as it were (forgive the computer analogy) to improve?

      This is like when I got into hifi - its an utterly new world. But no doubt, as with that, the rewards are concomitant.

      thanks again, n-w.

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      • #18
        Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

        Originally posted by 090F1C170D0F031E4E0 link=1293099510/14#14 date=1293527505
        Go with the silvia with pid and a very good grinder.
        Reading the original post, N-W clearly states that he has a new Rocky Grinder. The Rocky is a very good grinder! Is it the best? No! Is it flavour of the month? No. But having lived with one for a number of years (and many other grinders that have been onsold) I can put my hand on my heart and say that the Rocky is a boring, robust, no-fuss very good grinder! The OPer was actually in the market for a new machine...

        Originally posted by 1A2F2225110D2128282B2B4E0 link=1293099510/15#15 date=1293529235
        however I am tired of self-appointed internet experts bad mouthing gear they havent even seen. If it was rubbish, it would not be on range.
        Excellent decision N-W to actually go and play with the machines and talk to an industry professional... as opposed to people like me who are enthusiasts and at best gifted amateurs. The nice fellow at Venezianos in Brisbane has offered me the opportunity to play with a Gee even though I am not in the market for one. What a nice fellow! Even if I hate it (unlikely) what would give me to advise others on anything other than the colour (only to be contradicted by my wife anyway), not having lived with the machine or understood it from a professional perspective!

        Great decision N-W and keep us posted!

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        • #19
          Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

          Well, there seems to be a very happy ending to this story - or perhaps I should say beginning.

          Just home from seeing Chris at Talk Coffee. I decided to spend a bit more (a new computer can wait) and got the Diadema Junior Plus semi-auto ($2000). The Gee made lovely espresso, but the Diadema is clearly a step up (heat exchanger) and I decided not to go with the Gee now and upgrade in a year but to do the full upgrade now.

          Mind you, it will take me a while to make espresso like Chris. I havent poured 1.5 million shots (yet).

          So thanks to all, especially Chris who came in on a day off and spent an hour demonstrating and explaining.

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          • #20
            Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

            Well done mate [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

            Enjoy your new toy and many excellent coffees.

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            • #21
              Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

              Final update: I am very, very happy with the coffee coming out (espressos - havent ventured on anything else yet). Thanks once again to all who helped.

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              • #22
                Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

                Forums are great but hands-on with an expert is better! A great outcome and a great machine (bargain)! Pictures pictures pictures ;-)

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                • #23
                  Re: Beginner wanting to upgrade

                  awesome to hear of the positive experience at talk coffee - may have to go down there soon, thanks!

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