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  • Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

    Hi All, Im looking to buy my first Coffee Machine and have found two in my price range ($650 - 800):
    (1) Sunbeam Cafe Series Espresso Machine EM6910 (which currently comes with a free Sunbeam burr grinder) and;
    (2) Breville Fresco Espresso Machine BMF600. with onboard grinder.
    To be honest ive only used my friends Gaggia a handful of times so am not sure which way to go; or if i am going in the wrong direction completely. So any suggestions/opinions would be greatly appreciated!!

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    Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

    If I was looking and had that price range Id go up an extra $50 and get this http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/p/lelit-combi-pl042e/

    Oh and if you are thinking that the HN deal of 3 months free coffee is good, I wouldnt do it

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    • #3
      Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

      I have had a Breville Fresca BES860 (BMF600 is a milk frother) for a few months now and am very happy with it. My inbuilt grinder produces a fine enough grind for espressso without modification.  It has built in accurate temperature control and you dont have to wait hours for it to heat up properly as you would with a boiler machine.  I want my coffee when I want my coffee and dont want to wait for a boiler to heat up! Above all it produces a consistently good coffee with fresh beans.

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      • #4
        Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

        I dont have to wait
        Originally posted by 785F4E5D4E631F132B0 link=1304136827/2#2 date=1304142916
        I have had a Breville Fresca BES860 (BMF600 is a milk frother) for a few months now and am very happy with it. My inbuilt grinder produces a fine enough grind for espressso without modification.  It has built in accurate temperature control and you dont have to wait hours for it to heat up properly as you would with a boiler machine.  I want my coffee when I want my coffee and dont want to wait for a boiler to heat up! Above all it produces a consistently good coffee with fresh beans.
        sticking up for boiler machines I dont have to wait hours to warm up my lelit Im fine after 15 min, or less frankly

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        • #5
          Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

          out of the two listed, sunbeam and grinder for sure. Had mine 3 years now and its been great (for a basic machine). fast warm up, and ability to steam and brew at the same time is great. Probably the better of the cheap machines. I think they are only about $500 these days. Mind you, a silvia is under $700 now

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          • #6
            Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

            I think they jacked up the price for the Sunbeam by $100 RRP...
            one of the big dept stores starting with the letter M has the em6910 and em0480 grinder for $719 at the moment. Is that price any good?

            The cheapest Ive seen for the em6910 by itself $675
            HN and Bing in the $720 plus mark for just the machine by itself. Hopeless.

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            • #7
              Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

              Originally posted by 5E425A475B5B41280 link=1304136827/3#3 date=1304143376
              Im fine after 15 min, or less frankly

              Thats 14 minutes and 30 seconds too long for me I am afraid!

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                Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                Originally posted by 14332231220F737F470 link=1304136827/6#6 date=1304144734
                Originally posted by 5E425A475B5B41280 link=1304136827/3#3 date=1304143376
                Im fine after 15 min, or less frankly

                Thats 14 minutes and 30 seconds too long for me I am afraid!
                oh well. Horses for courses then I guess

                Still think the op would be doing themself a disservice not to consider all the options

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                • #9
                  Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                  Thanks everyone!! Oops.. I was talking about the Bessie (BES860), i realised after looking at the reviews. My fault for copying the ticket at Myer and not looking at the packaging! Ive found the Sunbeam with grinder for $649 which seems okay. The Lelit Combi which shapeshifter suggested looks like a great machine too. However with accessories and extended warrenty im looking at $1000 + :-[
                  P.S: Not at all temped by the free coffee for 3 months at HN. So much for the coffee demonstration too.. They were only showing Nespresso machines. Do not want! :-/

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                  • #10
                    Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                    Depending on just what you want, Id go the 6910 over the Breville, but mainly because Im over small group baskets, 58mm vs 53mm is a no contest issue.

                    The Sunbeams are being dealt out cheap now, so probably a better bargain that ever, I got a Lelit myself, but already had a grinder, to be honest Id have likely been happy with either a 6910 or the Lelit, your mixing and matching flaws and benefits in these price ranges, in my mind nothing you get will be spot on, but most will all make good coffee by what I have seen.

                    At the end of a day though, good grinder and less than 2 week old beans are what matters.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                      Originally posted by 547F737B6D531E0 link=1304136827/4#4 date=1304144159
                      out of the two listed, sunbeam and grinder for sure. Had mine 3 years now and its been great (for a basic machine). fast warm up, and ability to steam and brew at the same time is great
                      +1
                      Originally posted by 6D767F6E7B6D7677786A7B6C1E0 link=1304136827/1#1 date=1304139285
                      If I was looking and had that price range Id go up an extra $50 and get this http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/p/lelit-combi-pl042e/
                      +1

                      The Lelit may last longer than the Sunbeam, but providing you use and maintain it properly, the Sunbeam should last you quite some time.

                      Gary at G

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                      • #12
                        Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                        Originally posted by 5B707C74625C110 link=1304136827/4#4 date=1304144159
                        Mind you, a silvia is under $700 now
                        Where can I get one for this price? One of the sponsors?
                        Cheers,
                        Aaron

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                        • #13
                          Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                          Originally posted by 4645454453200 link=1304136827/11#11 date=1304149087
                          Originally posted by 5B707C74625C110 link=1304136827/4#4 date=1304144159
                          Mind you, a silvia is under $700 now
                          Where can I get one for this price?  One of the sponsors?
                          Cheers,
                          Aaron
                          I got mine for just over $700 a few months ago from Coffee-A-Roma if your in Melbourne and highly recommend it!

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                            Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                            Originally posted by 17332932173B29325A0 link=1304136827/8#8 date=1304146040
                            The Lelit Combi ...with accessories and extended warrenty...
                            The Lelits are closer to "coffee machine" than "kitchen appliance" and Im not sure the risks make extended warranty as essential as with the others on your list.

                            They should also last a lot longer (decades rather than years according to Alan Frew) and have better resale value if you get hooked and want to upgrade.

                            Downside is they look closer to industrial rather than kitchen appliance.

                            Originally posted by 092E3F2C3F126E625A0 link=1304136827/6#6 date=1304144734
                            Originally posted by 5E425A475B5B41280 link=1304136827/3#3 date=1304143376
                            Im fine after 15 min, or less frankly
                            Thats 14 minutes and 30 seconds too long for me I am afraid!
                            Even boiling the jug for instant takes longer than 30s  :  I dont think the relationship between quality and temperature stability or the laws of thermodynamics are on your side 

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                              Re: Which machine to buy? A Sunbeam or Breville?

                              Originally posted by 29393B283F235A0 link=1304136827/13#13 date=1304217735
                              Even boiling the jug for instant takes longer than 30s  Roll Eyes  I dont think the relationship between quality and temperature stability or the laws of thermodynamics are on your side
                              My BES860  is up to temp and ready for action, from cold, in 45 seconds.  Laws of thermodynamics are on my side - low thermal inertia (dont have to heat up a whole boilerful of water just for one cup).!  Temperature stability is first class, just a quick burst of hot water to pre-heat the group head and Im away.  Added to that I dont have to leave the darn thing switched on all day  wasting electricity.

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