Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

[nickoyang]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Roz wrote:
The only difference I found in correct adjustment was the mouthfeel of the espresso, my shots arent as thin and the taste is still great but I cant discern a difference in taste from when it was extracting at 11.5 to 9 / 9.5


Hi Roz,

On my unit, after the adjustment the color of the crema and the taste of the pour are more alike what the "text book" of coffee or coffee guru describes. I just drink it up in several of mouths.

Thanks

Nick OY

[jgniquet]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Not that I want to keep it going but I feel that my previous comment might have played a part in the last few posts (meaning disappointed that machines just released in Canada on Nov. 25th were not yet right, independently of when they were made they are just being available now) but I will add my last comment on this.

As it was said, I bought the machine as a recognition of the great design at that price point. This recognition includes the fact that it has a 9 bar OPV, it is a feature, it is used as a selling point, it is written as a feature very well in view right on the box! So I am obviously just stating that I wished it was as advertised.

Will Breville do the right thing, most probably according to all previous posts, but I am a quadriplegic guy with just enough hand dexterity to use such a machine (steam lever is great for me on the BES900) but not enough to adjust the OPV myself and it will also be quite a hassle for me to either bring it in a service centre or send it back. I know my condition is not the problem of Breville, just saying why I am a bit disappointed, thats all.

I am still very thankful to Phil for his help here and his involvement in trying to make our experience as good as it can get with the machine.

Cheers to all from Canada!

[>mcknightp]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

I cant think of a better place to express this than a coffee forum can you?

Yes, in the thread right here dedicated to the OPV issues!

Cheers, Phil

[citizen_smith]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

I cant think of a better place to express this than a coffee forum can you?

Yes, in the thread right here dedicated to the OPV issues!

Cheers, Phil

Point taken.

Perhaps a Breville designer and Engineer appreciation thread separate to this one should be started as well.

Just an idea 

[samhighley]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

I love my BES900, more than any other appliance in my kitchen. The toaster sits there and makes bread go brown and hot. The kettle takes water from 20°C to 100°C. The blender takes things back to their original form. My BES900 kick-starts my day and is a true joy to use.

I was talking with my wife the other day about the criteria that I use for judging whether something that I own is truly essential to me. The criteria that I use is that I ask myself: if the <item> got stolen tomorrow, would I go out and buy it again without any thought or consideration?

There are plenty of things/gadgets/stuff that I possess that the answer would be a NO. The BES900 is not one of those things. If it got stolen tomorrow id be at the shop at opening-time to replace it.

[frenchey55]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Hi all. Just thought Id update my experience with BDB so far.

I have to say, I am not happy up to this point.

I know this may seem trivial but I am still unable to achieve that lovely honey-like consistency as seen in Phils videos with my extractions. Every shot I pull is thin and watery. I will take you through my routine, in the hope someone may be able to pinpoint my problem.

Ill start with the Smart-Grinder. I have used freshly roasted beans (from several sources). I am using the supplied double basket (single floor) with approximately 19/20g of coffee, as measured with a set of digital scales.

Im using a spring-loaded "Eazytamp" tamper, set to 15kg to give me consistent tamping pressure. I get roughly a 30 second extraction with 9/10 bar pressure on the gauge.

So, my beans are fresh, my grind is good, my dosing is spot-on, my tamping is consistent and extraction times are in the ball-park. Still, all I see is this watery liquid emanating from the spouts!

But how does the coffee taste, I hear you say. Well it tastes OK, I guess. But it just doesnt look any good. In fact, the extractions from my old 6910 were a lot more impressive!

Id gladly appreciate any constructive comments.

[saoye]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Im using a spring-loaded "Eazytamp" tamper, set to 15kg to give me consistent tamping pressure. I get roughly a 30 second extraction with 9/10 bar pressure on the gauge.

No mention of volume? I am guessing you are getting the 60ml in the 30 seconds with the double basket?

[frenchey55]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Hi saoye. Sorry, yes 60ml in 30 seconds is the volume I aim for (and generally achieve).

[saoye]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Any channeling in the puck? how does the shot look in the cup? how much crema? can you add a photo? how fresh is freshly roasted? Plenty of questions but gathering facts will lead to a solution usually.

[nickoyang]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

BluMeanie wrote:
Every shot I pull is thin and watery.

Hi BluMeanie,

I guess your machines OPV is set too high so that if you would like to pour at 9/10 bar the grind size must be very coarse and therefore the flow rate is fast and coffee is watery if you extract it 30 secs.

You can grind finer and check the gauge reading. I believe it will be above 12 bar and the flow rate should be very slow.

Thanks

Nick OY

[Javaphile]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

Hey Nick OY,

To quote someone highlight the part of their post you want to quote and then click the "Mark & Quote" button in the header of their post and the highlighted text will appear in the posting area at the bottom of the page pre-tagged as a quote where you can then type in your response following it.



Java "Point and click" phile

[nickoyang]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

To quote someone highlight the part of their post you want to quote and then click the "Mark & Quote" button in the header of their post and the highlighted text will appear in the posting area at the bottom of the page pre-tagged as a quote where you can then type in your response following it.Java "Point and click" phile

Hi javaphile,

Thanks.

Nick OY

[frenchey55]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

If I ignore the gauge and grind finer then the extraction time is extended beyond the 30sec mark (the gauge will show 11/12 bars).
Now I dont mind anything up to 45 seconds but beyond that is not acceptable and the shots are still watery.

[jgniquet]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

I cant think of a better place to express this than a coffee forum can you?

Yes, in the thread right here dedicated to the OPV issues!

Cheers, Phil

Indeed, sorry, I am new here and got to that discussion first.

[jgniquet]

Re: Breville BES900 Dual Boiler - Owners thread

If I ignore the gauge and grind finer then the extraction time is extended beyond the 30sec mark (the gauge will show 11/12 bars).
Now I dont mind anything up to 45 seconds but beyond that is not acceptable and the shots are still watery.

If I was you I would use only 18 g grinding finer until getting the results expected.