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Re: Saeco VV - to upgrade or not?!
maybe forever. You could ask whether they would swap for a Compak for a few $$ more.
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Yep its a local retailer (and the gear is all new). I would have preferred the sponsors from this site (mainly because of all the good advice) but none of them seem to sell the Silvia locally. It was cool to actually see the machine in action.
What really blew my mind was how silky the shot was. Almost made me start salivating
Thanks WantRancilio, glad to hear the Rocky is okay. Interesting reading the reviews but I think for my next step in the coffee journey, it should be a good grinder for a few years.
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yes, excellent, particularly if its a local retailer (sponsors may even be cross!). All new?
Some may criticize the rocky but its a big step up from the sunbeam. Silvia is fussy on the grind. The sunbeam does not match well with silvia.
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Well am finally closing in on my machine of choice. Thinking of buying the silvia with the ranchillo rocky for $999. Seems like a good deal but more importantly the machine made an amazing cup of coffee!!
Do you think this is a good price?? And is the grinder better than my em0480?
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Awesome thanks for your help. Felt like a bit of a gumby last night fumbling around on google trying to find some companies!!Originally posted by 36000F1533000F02080D080E5051610 link=1326628208/12#12 date=1327355156quality machines can be found at
Barazi, Coopers Plains
Supreme Roasters, Yatala
Di Bella, Bowen Hills
Grinders (non-sponsor), Teneriffe, might be the only Brisbane retailer who stock the Silvia?
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quality machines can be found at
Barazi, Coopers Plains
Supreme Roasters, Yatala
Di Bella, Bowen Hills
Grinders (non-sponsor), Teneriffe, might be the only Brisbane retailer who stock the Silvia?
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Hey are any of the site sponsors located in Brisbane that sell silvia or similar machines. Been searching online for ages and cant seem to find a quality espresso machine shop in Brisbane. I know merlo sells some machines but not the ones i am interested in.
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Id just get the Silvia, great machine with lots of parts available for them for modifications if you want and I always wanted one but the temp surfing thing and the wait for steam was a bit of a pain, I have been told the Breville has better steam than the Silvia and the Lelit. I am happy with my Breville for the price I paid.
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So after taking a closer look at the breville I think I am going to look at some of the other machines out there. The machine as cool as it sounded with all its features just felt like another appliance, like a blender or kettle. If I am going to spend some $$ Im keen to see more stainless steel and less plastic. Its kinda hard to describe. The Breville just seemed to lack character?? Anyway Im sure its amazing machine but now Im thinking more about the silvia and leLit (PL041). Does anybody know if you can see these machines side-by-side in Brisbane? Ive been reading through all the the CS threads on the two machines and it certainly is a tight race!!
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I have had my VV running since 2005. But 2010/2011 was when I became a snob.
I got a new PF and basket (non-pressurized), Smart Grinder, loosen the shower screen, a Behmor to roast the beans and even removed part of the piccolo steam wand.
With these additions and modifications.....pretty good coffee.
Now I am saving for a better grinder and then for a better machine (unless the VV finally goes down).
Learning on the VV gave me a set of skills for the next level.
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My suggestions:
Upgrade the grinder first--the 0480 will be a weak point, especially with a better machine.
Ensure high quality, fresh beans.
If you havent already, remove the pressure stuff from the PortaFilter.
With a high quality grinder, my own roasted beans, and a modified PF and basket, I was able to excellent coffee from a very cheap machine. (Sigh--then I upgraded.)
Greg
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Thanks heaps guys, I was hoping/assuming Id get this kind of response. Supporting the addiction :-)
Yep Attilio youre right about the boiler. For some reason I thought the newer versions had a thermoblock (a sales person had told me that but saw online thats not the case)
I reckon my next step is to decide between gaggia, silvia or spending the big bucks on the breville. Looking forward to spending the night on the couch with the tennis on in the background and researching on the laptop. Hooray.
Thanks again
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I have had my VV for 10years or so and have used it with the Saeco grinder and was getting very ordinary coffee, the Mrs always said the cafes we go to occasionally made better coffee. So I bought a Breville smart grinder and a unpressurised PF and started to fiddle and the coffee quality improved way out of sight but as I like an occasional flat white I needed to get a machine that done better steam so after much research and looking around I got the BDB and havnt looked back. The mrs says coffee is better than cafes now and milk is done in no time and is much easier to get very silky and great microfoam. I have the naked PF and a 18,and 22gm VST and a quad basket I got from Beanbay and as I got a great price from a major dept store i am very happy with the set up. I will though get a compak K3 either the push or touch in the near future and relegate the smart grinder to the caravan with the VV. Go for it and get the new machine, if you like good coffee you wont be sorry.
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Notwithstanding this should read brass instead of copper, it is still interesting.....I wasnt aware the Via Venezia ever came out with anything other than the stainless steel boiler?????Originally posted by 7A626363170 link=1326628208/0#0 date=1326628208.....I have the saeco via venezia (the older version with the copper boiler).....
In any case I too would upgrade to a better machine. The VV is a great starter machine for those that have absolutely zero expertise with a pump driven machine, but once youve had it a couple of years I would atleast move to a machine with similar modus operandi. but that can make quasi commercial type coffee (if used properly). The next in line in a budget model would be a Gaggia Classic (Australian Spec and purchase please). If budget permits, then I would go further....a lot further.
Ten years eh
Youre a saint! Do the upgrade NOW !
Attilio
very first CS site sponsor.
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quite an achievement! You deserve something better and yes, a better grinder (even if second hand) to fully deliver on potential.Originally posted by 39212020540 link=1326628208/0#0 date=1326628208owning this machine for nearly a decade
You dont have to go to a double boiler to get much better results. If $$$ is an issue, and its only you and your wife most of the time, consider a better single boiler (eg silvia) that is pretty much just as capable in-the-cup and will probably last just like your trooper VV...
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