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  • #16
    That is a good point because a full clean cycle without the pill would be "overkill". But maybe there is some mechanism that cleans to solonoid? I doubt it though because Phil McKight is proposing a clear water backflush. But maybe there is and if there is and there is secrecy around it then what can a consumer do.

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    • #17
      Evidence is hardening, that the all Err codes are completely unrelated to any mechanical faults or failures within the hardware of the espresso machine. They are either showing a software bug code or error messages evidencing chip failures in certain chip areas.
      Today a machine broke down because of a faulty magnet switch - the error code of the machine still showed 00:00

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RaymondParker View Post
        Evidence is hardening, that the all Err codes are completely unrelated to any mechanical faults or failures within the hardware of the espresso machine. They are either showing a software bug code or error messages evidencing chip failures in certain chip areas.
        Today a machine broke down because of a faulty magnet switch - the error code of the machine still showed 00:00
        Software issues have now made me gun shy of computer controlled machines until the suppliers and the market sort this stuff out in the long run. it is the way of the future, but for now I have opted for the Mini Vivaldi over the Dream T to stay clear of computor errorsfor now.

        On the otherhand, if I could only control the parameters of my machine through my iPhone..... then we're talking!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RaymondParker View Post
          Evidence is hardening, that the all Err codes are completely unrelated to any mechanical faults or failures within the hardware of the espresso machine. They are either showing a software bug code or error messages evidencing chip failures in certain chip areas.
          This is a silly assumption. You've no idea what that field is for or what it's intended to report.

          Originally posted by RaymondParker View Post
          Today a machine broke down because of a faulty magnet switch - the error code of the machine still showed 00:00
          And what was the fault with the switch? If it's stuck on, likely the machine is being told it's out of water - that's not a fault condition to be reported...
          Sheesh.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by johnlyn View Post
            Software issues have now made me gun shy of computer controlled machines until the suppliers and the market sort this stuff out in the long run.
            ...You're aware of course, that computer controlled machines have been around now for rather a long time, and that the Mini Vivaldi is also computer controlled?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by WiredArabica View Post
              This is a silly assumption. You've no idea what that field is for or what it's intended to report. And what was the fault with the switch? If it's stuck on, likely the machine is being told it's out of water - that's not a fault condition to be reported...
              Sheesh.
              My friend!
              I doubt that your in posession a detailed explosion plan of that very machine as I have him here on my desk right in front of me - and I can prove that anytime. Problem is, that the map is not for public viewing -but I can always provide, if I must, a sniplet out of it - just to prove that I'm not lying. So to name someone silly you have to reach this, my level of information, first.
              Last edited by RaymondParker; 15 November 2012, 08:19 AM.

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              • #22
                You might have started with that, RP (I don't like it when people appear to take large leaps to unsupported assumptions, it happens rather often around here and triggers a knee-jerk reaction ). On re-reading your post I think we've a misunderstanding about this word: "Hardware". You see to me (and I work in the electronics industry), "hardware" refers to the physical electronic components / chips - so from your description this field is indeed reporting both software and hardware errors - but quite possibly not mechanical errors or failures (particularly if there aren't any means for the machine to detect these, I haven't had a chance to look that deeply at my one yet).

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by WiredArabica View Post
                  In any case, that's pretty poor advice for him to have given but probably understandable if he isn't a coffee person.
                  Not true - the chaps in the repair department are quite heavy on coffee too

                  Originally posted by WiredArabica View Post
                  The last part of his comment is a joke - the "built in mechanism for cleaning after each shot" would be cleaning itself with dirty water!
                  I'ts not at all. The contrary is true.
                  If you think a little bit over it what technically is happening when you clean with "dirty water" - actually its pretty clever.

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                  • #24
                    In order to concentrate all inputs, requests, ideas e.g. for Breville espresso machine & grinder in one place should I open a "Group" under Community > Groups?
                    what do you think?
                    just rate my idea with the like button - or leave it.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by WiredArabica View Post
                      ...You're aware of course, that computer controlled machines have been around now for rather a long time, and that the Mini Vivaldi is also computer controlled?
                      I am aware of that and I will freely add into this discussion that I don't particularly have a great understanding of computers so if you can clarify any misunderstandings I may have, that would be appreciated.

                      My understanding is that machines like the BDB have more functions controlled by computor. The new La Spaziale Dream also has more computer controlled functions. Ultimately I like the convenience and functionality of computer controls otherwise I would buy a lever machine. However, with the BDB (four replaced machines), I have had issues with Err1's and 2's that remain unexplained. Since these codes seem to be a secret i cannot determine what I or my house electrical may be doing wrong to provoke the messages. I also assume that such messages are software related. Therefore I am nervous about more sohpisticated computer functions for now on an espresso machine, used in my home.

                      Any ideas or info on what the Err messages indicate? what would trigger them?
                      Last edited by johnlyn; 16 November 2012, 06:59 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Dear RaymondParker... from Vienna... I love your posts.... they amuse the hell out of me! Can't wait to see what you come up with next!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Vinitasse View Post
                          Dear RaymondParker... from Vienna... I love your posts.... they amuse the hell out of me! Can't wait to see what you come up with next!
                          Fine!

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                          how about a sniplet of a (rarely seen in the wild) explosion drawing of the BES900?
                          Funny enough ? ;-)

                          ok - I understand - I'm leaving for good

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                          • #28
                            Oh - that's the manual you were talking about. I have that one too.
                            'Bye.

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                            • #29
                              I hope you feel better now having lost a discussion partner - think - you have not only achieved this, but informed / warned visiting newbies like me that it is better to stay away from CS as this is your own trample ground not to be mingled with.
                              I have understood the message you so eloquently transported and leave the grass.
                              Thank you for your kindness.

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                              • #30
                                ...time to think....

                                ....a couple of deep breaths boys....there's plenty of room in the sandpit for everyone!

                                poor but honest Ross

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