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After nearly 8 months of using it I have encountered zero problems with the machine and the travel adapter.
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Given that a korjo adapter costs somewhere ~$17 (at least where I've seen them) you're a long way to what I put as my (rather OTT) guesstimate on the cost of getting the plug replaced...Originally posted by Dragunov21 View PostFWIW I'm talking about Korjo (for instance) adaptors designed for conversion from one system to another (not universal adaptors), not something that ships with an appliance you paid five bucks for (with free shipping) in the first place.
I can't comment on compliance but I'd assume that they'd require compliance to be sold in Australia and, if so, they're no more of less dangerous (inherently) than a short extension cord.
On compliance, ISTR there's some kind of limited exception around the sale of travel adapters because they are not intended for long-term use, considering that in order to make an Australian Standards compliant adapter we'd need to have Australian Standards for all the international power plugs/sockets...
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Covered off more than adequately by jbrewster. Chances are if a purchaser is looking for bargain basement, a quality adaptor is not going to get a look in and I'd be surprised if it did in this instance.Originally posted by Dragunov21 View PostWhy do you feel it is ill-advised to use a machine with a travel adaptor?
I'd advise fitment of the correct plug....but what would I know?
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FWIW I'm talking about Korjo (for instance) adaptors designed for conversion from one system to another (not universal adaptors), not something that ships with an appliance you paid five bucks for (with free shipping) in the first place.Originally posted by jbrewster View PostBecause pulling 1500odd W through a travel adapter which was made from the cheapest possible materials is a bad idea, I have seen travel adapters overheat and fail badly, I suggest that pulling any more than about 100W through them is ill advised.
Further to this, should you have a fire as a result of using one of those (which by the way, are not generally certified compliant with Australian Standards, I've certainly never seen a legitimate AS marking on a travel adapter purchased overseas, not even sure if I've seen one on a locally purchased unit) and your insurance company figures that out they are within their rights to refuse to pay you out because the device with was responsible was not compliant with Australian requirements and hence should not have been in use.
Considering that you should be able to get the plug replaced for less than $50 I would suggest that that is a good investment...
I can't comment on compliance but I'd assume that they'd require compliance to be sold in Australia and, if so, they're no more of less dangerous (inherently) than a short extension cord.
Personally I've never had an issue with a quality adaptor and provided the connections are solid (hence not using a universal) there is no reason it should be an issue.
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I agree on that actually... I have seen adaptors sparked and smoked after using it long while... both "Aussie" and china made brands...
if using appliances on long term basis, probably worth changing it...
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Because pulling 1500odd W through a travel adapter which was made from the cheapest possible materials is a bad idea, I have seen travel adapters overheat and fail badly, I suggest that pulling any more than about 100W through them is ill advised.Originally posted by Dragunov21 View PostTo be fair, if you say "you shouldn't do this because I think it's a bad idea" without offering any support or reasoning, people have no reason to give credence. Passive-aggressive references to your industry experience don't change that.
Why do you feel it is ill-advised to use a machine with a travel adaptor?
Further to this, should you have a fire as a result of using one of those (which by the way, are not generally certified compliant with Australian Standards, I've certainly never seen a legitimate AS marking on a travel adapter purchased overseas, not even sure if I've seen one on a locally purchased unit) and your insurance company figures that out they are within their rights to refuse to pay you out because the device with was responsible was not compliant with Australian requirements and hence should not have been in use.
Considering that you should be able to get the plug replaced for less than $50 I would suggest that that is a good investment...
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To be fair, if you say "you shouldn't do this because I think it's a bad idea" without offering any support or reasoning, people have no reason to give credence. Passive-aggressive references to your industry experience don't change that.Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostIn which case, I know absolutely nothing...
Why do you feel it is ill-advised to use a machine with a travel adaptor?
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It has worked fine with mine...and I didn't particularly want to pay $700 for the machine when I could get it for like $280 i think it worked out to. worth it IMOOriginally posted by Dragunov21 View PostI'm guessing travel adaptor, since a 1500W convertor would blast any savings out of the water.
FWIW, there's no actual reason not to use an Aust-purchased travel adaptor besides aesthetics.
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I'm guessing travel adaptor, since a 1500W convertor would blast any savings out of the water.Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostConverter or travel adaptor?
FWIW, I'd never use a machine with a travel adaptor. I would suggest that it would be a good idea (and safer) to find someone to fit an appropriate plug.
FWIW, there's no actual reason not to use an Aust-purchased travel adaptor besides aesthetics.
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Converter or travel adaptor?
FWIW, I'd never use a machine with a travel adaptor. I would suggest that it would be a good idea (and safer) to find someone to fit an appropriate plug.
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That is where I got mine from....has gone as low as 163 GBP..Amazon are really good to deal with too and it came to me within about 4 days. I went into dick smiths to get a converter and it is working fine...never looked back!
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I would like to know where too..Originally posted by mrgrinder View PostHey guys
Just discovered a Gaggia Classic can be purchased online from overseas for 189GBP including delivery to Australia (about $290). Can't wait to try it out, hopefully the coffee will be good considering its low price
cheers
Tim
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Hey mate, congratulations on the good deal. I've been looking on ebay to get one but cant seem to find them under 330 + delivery. Any chance you could PM me the link to the site where you got it from?
Cheers
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