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  • Dragunov21
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    Cheers for the heads-up.

    It's weird, maybe I've just gotten used to my own or maybe I'm just doinitwrong (comparing lattes rather than shots because that's what I drink most) but I haven't found a place that measures up to what I pull/steam out of the Gaggia, with the exception of one place in Melbourne that blows it out of the water and a place in Hobart that was really really good.

    After trying the recommendations in Darwin I'm resigned to making my own damn coffee, but as I said, needs less caffeine O_O

    /derail

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  • Barry O'Speedwagon
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    No apology necessary, Dragunov. My post could have been clearer.

    I struggled coffee wise when I spent a week in Darwin. Some nice food though.....give Hanuman restaurant a go if you are feeling like a night out.

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  • Dragunov21
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    Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Don't disagree with anything you say, Dragunov. Wasn't talking anyone out of anything, just suggesting that the whole 'temp surfing' thing can be blown into something a little more problematic than it is. At no point did I say that anyone who decided not to purchase a Silvia lacked a common sense or ability (I'd be abusing myself.....I made a similar decision to yourself)....I just said that people I know who did buy a Silvia don't find it a problem. I was replying to a post that questioned (by implication) why someone would buy a plain vanilla Silvia.
    Cheers
    My apologies; I thought that was the insinuation from the bolded bit and I guess that was mistaken. As I said I didn't intend it to be be as aggressive as it might read.

    In completely unrelated news, I'm caving and getting a popper up here (Darwin) so I can roast Decaf; apparently I'm just not built for two doubles a day; one day without caffeine and my head throbs so bad it pulses my vision by mid-afternoon.

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  • okitoki
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    as much fun as I having from temp surfing my silvia each morning, I've ordered a PID from a site sponsor just to make my life slightly easier and save me some time each morning when making shots before I rush off to work... as long as the coffee taste good

    nothing wrong with watching SCG videos... Kat and Gail are entertaining to watch... I dont think they take themselves too seriously anyway

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  • Barry O'Speedwagon
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    Don't disagree with anything you say, Dragunov. Wasn't talking anyone out of anything, just suggesting that the whole 'temp surfing' thing can be blown into something a little more problematic than it is. At no point did I say that anyone who decided not to purchase a Silvia lacked a common sense or ability (I'd be abusing myself.....I made a similar decision to yourself)....I just said that people I know who did buy a Silvia don't find it a problem. I was replying to a post that questioned (by implication) why someone would buy a plain vanilla Silvia.
    Cheers

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  • Dragunov21
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    Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    It's hardly like a week on the Burma railway. Individuals with a modicum of common sense and a willingness to understand what is going seem to have no problem with it. I have several friends (non forumites) who don't understand what all the fuss is about....and they make great coffee when I visit them.
    While that's true, the fact remains that whether it's able to be worked around or not, the poor temperature stability of machines with wide-band thermostats is something that is purely negative easily fixed if you're willing to spend a little more (or faff around with a PID) and doing so improves the efficiency with which you can crank out drinks.
    If you are happy to spend/mod, I don't see why anyone would talk someone out of it. I don't see anyone saying that people shouldn't worry about electric grinders because hand-grinding isn't a torturous experience, let alone with this kind of regularity.

    If you and the other proponents of temp-surfing left it at "it's not that bad" I could understand, but no, if someone doesn't like temp surfing it's always because they're lazy, or artless, or ignorant, or otherwise incapable of learning, as though working with technically less capable equipment and being able to force it to punch above its weight holds some sort of cachet. I'm an individual with a modicum of common sense, which dictated that I shouldn't put up with an inconvenience that I could remove for the sake of 40 bucks and an hour of tinkering. I bet I'm more intimately knowledgeable of my machine than most people who temp surf after seeing SeattleCoffeeGear do it on this one video one time.

    FWIW there's no anger in that post, I just think it's silly.

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  • Barry O'Speedwagon
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    Originally posted by Logzy View Post
    Cant understand why anyone would want to have to put up with temp surfing.
    It's hardly like a week on the Burma railway. Individuals with a modicum of common sense and a willingness to understand what is going seem to have no problem with it. I have several friends (non forumites) who don't understand what all the fuss is about....and they make great coffee when I visit them.

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  • okitoki
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    well, if you are not in a mad rush to make your shots, and only make 1-2 drinks each time, then I would think temp surfing is ok (specially if it is your morning "ritual" )
    but if you want to make more drinks to entertain... then yes, look elsewhere

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  • Logzy
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    Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    If she doesn't want to bother with manual pour, I suspect temp-surfing is not going to go over well, especially with 2k to spend...
    Cant understand why anyone would want to have to put up with temp surfing.

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  • TC
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    G'day Emille,

    I think you will find that a commercial Mazzer, Macap et al has has it over a domestic grinder for longevity. My opinion FWIW: stick to the biggies.

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  • Wynton87
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    Atleast as good as but probably better

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  • Emille
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    That is good advice on the grinders. Are you referring to the Mahlkonig Vario?
    Will it really grind as good as a Mazzer, or as Chris suggests a Macap?

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  • Wynton87
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    As blend52 said mazzers will always be recommended in a commercial environment because they are built like a tank. But at home you can get more bang for your buck.

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  • blend52
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    ... I was in favour of the Mazzers, not because of their look, but because I have never heard a bad word about them. also I often speak to cafe owners and Baristas and they always recommend Mazzer.
    Mazzers are excellent grinders,.but some of the features that endear them to cafe owners and barista's may be irrelevent to home use ( eg, long service life, ) whilst characteristics important to home use may not be apparent in commercial use ( retained grinds, messy dosing, noise, size, etc )
    Do some more reading of the owners feedback and comparisons before you make a final choice.

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  • Emille
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    Originally posted by Wynton87 View Post
    Emille it seams you are basing your choices on things 'looking cool' which won't matter once you get fussy about getting nice tasting shot. What do you hope to get from an e-61 group? If its stable temp then you would be better off with the Lelit pl60t v2 as it has a pid controller. Also don't get caught up in the hype of a mini mazzer, you would be paying for looks again. Research the mahlkonig vario if you want something better than a mini mazzer. Also stay away from manual dosers in the home environment unless you love cleaning up mess and having stale grinds mixing with your fresh grinds.
    What would make you say that?

    Yes - I want a machine that looks good. However, I am more concerned about the function.
    When I say I like the look of something, I mean I also like it functionally.

    I researched the E-61 group head and I particularly like the features, i.e. passive pre-infusion. And yes, it is aesthetically pleasing.

    I had not discounted the Lelit at this stage, but as I did not like the functionality of my old Nemox Dell Opera and the build, I did not want another machine that was essentially the same just with a different badge on it. Now that I have had some clarification that it is not just a re badged Nemox, I will look into it a bit further.

    At the end of the day - I want a machine that I will use - if I buy something that I don't use because it is painful (like the Nemox Dell Opera), then it is a waste of money. Likewise, if I buy something that does not suit the decor in my house, it is just as much of a waste of money.

    I am certainly open to suggestions on other grinders, but I was in favour of the Mazzers, not because of their look, but because I have never heard a bad word about them. also I often speak to cafe owners and Baristas and they always recommend Mazzer.

    So in short, I am basing my decisions on functionality, recommendations and aesthetics.

    Emille

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