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  • #31
    Originally posted by pcrussell50 View Post
    Hi Marty. They were available as of this summer, and people were buying them. Looks like they are on back order now.
    https://www.ereplacementparts.com/sh...arch%20results

    Further, there is one I found that is so close to an exact fit, that it doesn't require any modification. It even uses the same screw in the handle as the stock Breville valve. Though it doesn't seem to be of as high a quality at least by just looking at it.

    Breville USA has USA tort laws to face. If we had in the USA, the same reasonable standards for bringing civil suit as the rest of the world, Breville USA would not have to have the fear of users making DIY repairs that they feel they need, in order to protect themselves from liability. And they are not unique in this. All deep pocketed companies in the USA practice defensive liability strategy. Small companies without deep pockets, simply liquidate if they lose or can't afford to fight a big suit. It's the American way these days. The problem is us. We like our frivolous law suits, and we elect leaders who write the tort laws to give us what we want. Every time the idea of bringing USA civil liability laws into congruence with the rest of the democratic world is brought up, it goes down in flames. Remember "tort reform"? That was such an attempt. We didn't want it. So we go on with what we have, looking at literally every decision through the lens of legal liability.

    Meanwhile, the BDB and it's commercial quality temperature performance, simple logical layout and easy repairs combine to give us what is now "better than Slayer" flow profiling capability: https://www.home-barista.com/espress...0.html#p619804
    https://www.home-barista.com/espress...54849-190.html

    With flow profiling capability like this, I don't know if there is another machine I would buy today, at _any_ price.

    -Peter
    Hi Peter,
    Good to hear from you! Thanks for the Home Barista link to the Slayer-like BDB mod. Your explanation of what you did and how it works sounds good and an easy mod to do. Clever!

    I understand the Breville replacement parts issue...however, I'm not a proponent of suing places like McDonalds cause I spilled hot coffee on me :-0 I thought long, too long, and hard about switching away from the BDB but it wasn't just because of the spare parts issue. Its also due to their repair policy of sending our machines to their subcontracted Carol Stream, Ill appliance repair center where I had several bad experiences. All in all, after six years living with Breville, living without the machine as it was being "repaired", I simply decided to call the relationship quits and go elsewhere.

    I use the same locally roasted coffee, the same grinder with the same settings as I did with the BDB but my new machine extracts a much different taste - in a good way - its a deeper coffee flavor and the crema is outrageous. I'm not looking back, does no good but am certainly happy to hear what you have done and that you are happy. That's all that really counts in the end, right?

    Marty

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    • #32
      Glad to know all's good with you Marty. It's always better to take the route that makes you happy. If you ever become interested in flow profiling there is a thread about adding a "Bianca'like" needle valve to any E61 that is generic enough to fit it. IMS, it is in the stage where the guy who is the prime mover has sent drawings to a fabricator... waiting to see the result. Even I am, and I have don't have an E61.

      -Peter

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      • #33
        Originally posted by peter.scales View Post
        This NZ site looks encouraging : Need a part

        I have an enquiry in for supply of one ball valve assembly. We'll see what transpires.
        Ordered two, only one was dispatched. It arrived today and has been installed.
        I have a query in about the missing part, but the auto-email back said I won't get a considered reply until after the Christmas break....
        i.e. in early January.

        So the genuine part is at least obtainable.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by peter.scales View Post
          Ordered two, only one was dispatched. It arrived today and has been installed.
          I have a query in about the missing part, but the auto-email back said I won't get a considered reply until after the Christmas break....
          i.e. in early January.

          So the genuine part is at least obtainable.
          "We can't get this product anymore

          We are no longer able to source this product from our supplier."

          Locally here in Australia all I have found is bigwarehouse dot com dot au selling them for $115. Is that the going rate? Maybe I'll just have a crack at opening that thing up and seeing if it's just a seal or o-ring.


          **Update: Called Breville and got authorised repairer locally in Seven Hills. He had 4 of the steam valves in stock so I went and bought one for ~$74. I have since taken the old valve apart and it seems the brass ball gets a little gunked up, which I assume is what causes the poor seating on the nylon cups and hence the leaking, but the other (main) issue the small O ring on the spigot is not sealing so you get the leak through there. I'll be cleaning this one up and getting a new o ring for the spigot and see if seals. Then it might be good in the event this other ones fails.
          Last edited by shazosbourne; 11 January 2019, 03:36 PM. Reason: added question

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          • #35
            Steam Ball Valve supply

            Originally posted by shazosbourne View Post
            "We can't get this product anymore

            We are no longer able to source this product from our supplier."

            Locally here in Australia all I have found is bigwarehouse dot com dot au selling them for $115. Is that the going rate? Maybe I'll just have a crack at opening that thing up and seeing if it's just a seal or o-ring.


            **Update: Called Breville and got authorised repairer locally in Seven Hills. He had 4 of the steam valves in stock so I went and bought one for ~$74. I have since taken the old valve apart and it seems the brass ball gets a little gunked up, which I assume is what causes the poor seating on the nylon cups and hence the leaking, but the other (main) issue the small O ring on the spigot is not sealing so you get the leak through there. I'll be cleaning this one up and getting a new o ring for the spigot and see if seals. Then it might be good in the event this other ones fails.
            Hi Shaz, do you have contact info for the Seven Hills repairer? I'd love to see if I could source a couple of the ball valves from him. I need one NOW, and would also like a backup for the next failure (my current one lasted less than a year before it started leaking). Or, might you be so kind as to ship a few to the US? If you could ship several of them in one shipment, I could then in turn ship a few of them to others in the US (I'm in California), and that way you could "seed" the supply, and provide several needy coffee people in the US with valves with one just overseas shipment from Australia to the US.

            Also, did you clean one valve and test it? If I can't source a new one, I may have to go that route!

            Thanks!
            Jim

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