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    Hello all,

    I've owned 3 via venezia's over the years which with a Rocky Rancillo grinder made us a great number of lattes - (Typically 30-40 a week). They don't make these any more, so I'm looking for new options - $500-800 ish. Gaggia Classic, Rancillo Silva and Lelit PL41TEMD all look like good options. At this stage, I don't think I'll be able to find the time to do some mods (PID etc) to the machines..

    Any thoughts and advice?

    Cheers
    KB

  • #2
    Have you taken a look at the used equipment in the Coffee Hardware For Sale area? There's some nice equipment available in there with at least one machine in your price bracket that I would buy in a heartbeat if I were anywhere near it.


    Java "Purple envy!" phile
    Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Javaphile View Post

      Java "Purple envy!" phile
      Hahaha purple envy eh?

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      • #4
        Following this as I'm also considering Lelit PL41TEMD or the Rancillio Silvia..but have read that Silvia rust under the small drip tray..can't find a Lelit retailer in Brisbane..

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        • #5
          In my opinion, the Lelit offers better 'bang for buck' than a Silvia and is available with more useful options so that you can tailor your machine to something that suits your needs more closely. Lelit also has models that come fitted with a PID Controller right out of the box...

          Best though, if you can visit a specialist retailer or three (such as our Site Sponsors) and see the machines performing side by side. Much easier to make the right decision then...

          Mal.

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          • #6
            Mal, I'm leaning towards the lelit, love the look of it & built in PID. I was using a sunbeam em6910 before it died. Does these single boilers take a long time to make a coffee? In the morning I don't have much time before work..so it needs to be fairly fast. Is the lelit with a separate lelit grinder a better choice long term than say a breville double boiler? Thanks

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LFM60 View Post
              Hahaha purple envy eh?
              Yup! Although truth be told its' color doesn't matter, I'd take it no matter what color it was. It's just an added bonus that it's my local team's color.

              With a bit of care the electro-mechanical La Cimbali's can last a lifetime. As best as I can figure my M28 is somewhere around 30 years old and still performing as new. I've had it for a bit over 12 years and in that entire time I've only put about $150 into it and that includes the complete rebuild I did of it when I bought it. Prior to my buying it it was used in a commercial setting from new. They're serious workhorses designed to last for ages with no electronics to die on them.

              South East Qld but wishing I was somewhere cooler......
              Somewhere cooler eh? How about -34C, would that be cool enough for ya?


              Java "How cool is cool enough?" phile
              Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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              • #8
                Thanks Paul, they probably are cheaper in the long run due to longer life. I've come to the conclusion a PID is a must..the single boiler is all the budget will stretch to. Just hope it's easy to learn.

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                • #9
                  mate, simplybeans at Underwood (off compton road) stocks Lelit. I've seen the sub $1000 machines there as well as the mara. Who knows you may even get a demonstration on it

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 3rutu5 View Post
                    mate, simplybeans at Underwood (off compton road) stocks Lelit. I've seen the sub $1000 machines there as well as the mara. Who knows you may even get a demonstration on it
                    Checked the website and it looks like a place I should visit in the name of research (and of course a coffee).

                    Thanks 3rutu5

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Javaphile View Post

                      Somewhere cooler eh? How about -34C, would that be cool enough for ya?

                      Java "How cool is cool enough?" phile
                      Javaphile, how does one make coffee in those temperatures? Does the machine suffer from "frostbite"?

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                      • #12
                        Thanks 3rutu5 will check them out

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LFM60 View Post
                          Javaphile, how does one make coffee in those temperatures?
                          Why do you think I have a commercial 2 group machine? It's so on the cold days (-50C) we can huddle around it for warmth!

                          Does the machine suffer from "frostbite"?
                          Nope, just the operator!


                          Java "Always a good idea to test a machine before buying" phile
                          Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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                          • #14
                            Hey firstly hope I'm not hijacking this thread...should I create a new one? Well I checked out the lelit PL41TEMD today..while it looks great..I was disappointed in the size of the non commercial group! It was sitting next to the ECM casa 4. The ECM looked fantastic well made with a true commercial group. Unfortunately the machine was not hooked up for a demo.

                            Now I'm considering the ECM casa 4 as it's only a few hundred more but my budget will probably only stretch for a grinder under the $400 mark. Any opinions on the ECM?

                            PS had my first cold drip today..freaking awesome

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by keithyb View Post
                              Hello all,

                              I've owned 3 via venezia's over the years which with a Rocky Rancillo grinder made us a great number of lattes - (Typically 30-40 a week). They don't make these any more, so I'm looking for new options - $500-800 ish. Gaggia Classic, Rancillo Silva and Lelit PL41TEMD all look like good options. At this stage, I don't think I'll be able to find the time to do some mods (PID etc) to the machines..

                              Any thoughts and advice?

                              Cheers
                              KB
                              I recently upgraded with a Christmas present to myself.....a Profitec 500. So, I have a Gaggia Classic that needs a new home. Any interest?

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