Originally posted by murray02
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That said, If you can get a deal on say a Quamar Q50 or beyond or don't mind a really good manual grinder and stil can stretch the budget for a machine like the ECM, I would consider an entry level Heat exchanger machine (Expobar Pulser/Control/Leva, NS Oscar) instead. Else for about the same money you could probably get a Bezzera Unica, which is PIDed out of the box and has a commercial E61 group head.

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