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  • #31
    Originally posted by matth3wh View Post
    Mal, can your family be coaxed in to helping passing snobs going north to Toowoomba or is that pushing things? :-) I've always meant to ask you for any cafe recommendations for Warwick? (or better to wait until Twba?)
    Haha...

    No mate, I'd be hanging on until you get to Toowoomba for anything half decent.
    Only a couple of chain outposts here in Warwick where the best that could be said is, only if you're very desperate...

    Mal.

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    • #32
      Mal I feared that may have been the case. Can't remember the last time we ventured off the highway to the CBD to find out. The other battle when travelling is the 3pm or 4pm closing time cut off.

      Now for a very loose segway back on topic... Perhaps someone could downsize their machine, buy a commercial one to use by day and have your cheaper one by night. Help the good people of Warwick! Come on people!? Where's your coffee spirit?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MediumRoastSteam View Post
        Hi all, thanks for your input.

        So, I had an HX machine before and, let's say, we didn't get on. I like the reproducibility of a dual boiler. Besides, in Southern England the water is really hard, thus my machine is fed with a bottled water which is soft (not too soft) and won't scale the boiler. Because of that, cooling flushes are a no-no for me. As you may have guessed therefore, the machine is not plumbed in and I don't really have a need or desire to do so given my usage.

        So, the main thing about heating up, as well as the boilers, is the E61 group head. To be fair as you may know already, the P-700 is up to boiler temp in less than 10 minutes. However, due to the heavy mass of the E61, it will take another 35 minutes for that to be ready. Hence one needs to plan when one wants a cup of coffee. :-) And that's the appeal of the P-300. Not only the small boiler size, thus slightly more compact than its big sister, but the fact that the ring group is mounted directly below the boiler as 338 says.

        Would be interesting to hear from anyone who had both type of machines before - or the Pro-300 - and know their opinions.
        Hey MRS, I've been using the Pro 300 with a single dosing grinder setup for about the last 10 months. I was considering the Pro 700 before I purchased my setup. Decided against going to the 700 for pretty much the reasons you listed in your original post (heatup, size)

        The heatup time is accurate. The ring group (and portafilter) will take about an extra 5min to get hot, but 10-15min is sufficient. Handy for turning on whenever guests arrive or if you want an evening coffee.

        Steam power is going to be a step down. But it's sufficient for steaming single cup drinks.
        It'll take less than 20seconds to steam milk for a 180ml latte/capp. Steaming and brewing at the same time is great.

        You will also lose preinfusion. As long as you distribute well it's not a huge issue.

        If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by MediumRoastSteam View Post
          Thanks! Those are reassuring comments. I do use a timer for the morning, but don't like flushing too much water through as I feed the machine with bottled water.

          However, y our point regarding the E61 is reassuring: I think sometimes it is easy to get used to something and expect everything else to be just e same. Thanks!
          Dare I suggest that instead of getting rid of the 700 you switch off the steam boiler and get one of those cheap frothing gadgets used with the pod machines. Not as good microform perhaps but quick and the brew boiler has priority heating and is smaller.

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          • #35
            Johnd, good suggestion but I don't think it is the boiler causing the slow warm up time as much as the few kilograms of brass called the E-61 grouphead.

            MSR, one suggestion which will give you higher ambient temperature and ready availability of reasonable water for warming flushes is - move to Australia.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 338 View Post
              Johnd, good suggestion but I don't think it is the boiler causing the slow warm up time as much as the few kilograms of brass called the E-61 grouphead.

              MSR, one suggestion which will give you higher ambient temperature and ready availability of reasonable water for warming flushes is - move to Australia.
              Ha! That would be a good reason then not to get rid of the Pro-700!

              On a serious note, thank you for all the messages. I came to the conclusion here that keeping the Pro-700 is the right thing to do. Just a bit of planning ahead (or some flushing in preparation) will do the trick nicely. Thanks everyone, really appreciate it.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by suvartet View Post
                Hey MRS, I've been using the Pro 300 with a single dosing grinder setup for about the last 10 months. I was considering the Pro 700 before I purchased my setup. Decided against going to the 700 for pretty much the reasons you listed in your original post (heatup, size)

                The heatup time is accurate. The ring group (and portafilter) will take about an extra 5min to get hot, but 10-15min is sufficient. Handy for turning on whenever guests arrive or if you want an evening coffee.

                Steam power is going to be a step down. But it's sufficient for steaming single cup drinks.
                It'll take less than 20seconds to steam milk for a 180ml latte/capp. Steaming and brewing at the same time is great.

                You will also lose preinfusion. As long as you distribute well it's not a huge issue.

                If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me.
                Thank you for this suvartet, appreciate it.

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                • #38
                  Hi all i have the Pro 700, my better half got me a WeMo switch from belkin eBay link removed as per the Site Posting Policy
                  the advantage is you can turn it on by timer or when your on the way home from work ect, it wont speed up the warm up time
                  but it does make the machine more uasable
                  Last edited by Javaphile; 8 April 2018, 10:46 AM. Reason: eBay link(s) removed

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