I’m currently searching for a replacement for my EM7000 which broke after 3 years (I read some might last 8y). As I fortunately put extended warrenty on it, I received my money back, so I basically had a great machine for that time with no cost other than the insurance.
Apart from the build quality, the EM7000 made pretty good shots with freshly ground beans (Smart grinder+mod) and the steam wand worked fine too after a few days/weeks getting used to it. The machine also heats up quickly and is pretty much fool proof in some regards: If you run out of water it alarms you and if left on all day, it goes into standby.
I guess many others have been at this point choosing between another Sunbeam/Breville (+extended warrenty!!!) or entering the world of prosumer machines.
What I’m looking for:
Current searches point towards: HX (Oscar II) or double boiler (Lelit P60) machines seem to tick the boxes. The new Lelit Victoria single boiler looks quite nice too.
Are Lelit or Nuova machines going strong after say 10 years (as opposed to the average 3-8 years of a Sunbeam/Breville)?
What other machines would fit my requirements?
Thank you very much for your experiences and any advice!
Bernhard.
Apart from the build quality, the EM7000 made pretty good shots with freshly ground beans (Smart grinder+mod) and the steam wand worked fine too after a few days/weeks getting used to it. The machine also heats up quickly and is pretty much fool proof in some regards: If you run out of water it alarms you and if left on all day, it goes into standby.
I guess many others have been at this point choosing between another Sunbeam/Breville (+extended warrenty!!!) or entering the world of prosumer machines.
- If you spend up to $1.5k, does the build quality improve a fair bit over a EM7000 (>$500) or BES920 (<$1k) with the machines lasting longer? I assume the shot/steam quality should be at least the same.
- At what price point can you be more certain to make a long term investment (up to $1.5k, or above the $2-3k mark)?
What I’m looking for:
- My budget is as low as possible for a good machine ($500 is what I paid, $1k is approaching the limit, $1.5k has to last). 2nd hand is an option too if the build quality is made to last - I have no clue how to assess this though (no Sunbeam/Breville equivalent).
- Easy to use: No chance for the boiler to burn out if you forget to flush it, add enough water to the tank or make sure there’s no leakage from the steam wand (you know if you have kids in the house).
- Quick heat up time (< 10-20 mins). We drink 2 lattes in the morning rush and an occasional espresso in the afternoon. Add several milky drinks when visitors come around at short notice.
Current searches point towards: HX (Oscar II) or double boiler (Lelit P60) machines seem to tick the boxes. The new Lelit Victoria single boiler looks quite nice too.
Are Lelit or Nuova machines going strong after say 10 years (as opposed to the average 3-8 years of a Sunbeam/Breville)?
What other machines would fit my requirements?
Thank you very much for your experiences and any advice!
Bernhard.

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