I can't give anymore info than the great post of ElShano above as I've never had a manual machine before, only a cheap pod machine. I recently got a Primadonna Elite (model up from the Elatta range), and it does make a good coffee. Of course can't change all the settings like a manual, but doesn't do too bad a job
Have a look on the Delonghi website for the factory 2nd's, which are a good saving. I got the Primadonna Elite (ECAM65055MS) about 1 month ago for $899, normal RRP$2499, typically in the shops $1999 new. The factory 2nd's come with 1 year warranty, not the standard 2 years, but good saving on price, also typically out-of-stock, but you may get lucky and snag one (I did
).Making a large Expresso
Making a Flat White
PS Sorry Javaphile, didn't realise my link wasn't allowed, I'll try and remember in the future

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