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  • #16
    Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

    Great! I think Ive been convinced!

    Thanks for your help - Ill wait to my fiancee goes away for a few weeks, and the I can have my affair with my new toy!

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    • #17
      Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

      i might as well put my 2 cents in as i went from classic to 6910. 6910 is in a league above classic, competing with silvia however with 2 different buil/design philosophies.

      greg your comment re "Expect both of them to last a few years but not much more. The Gaggia because it has an aluminum boiler, the Sunbeam because of all the electronics. The Gaggia being a boiler machine, youre going to get better steam volume than you will from the Sunbeam. The Sunbeam would be my choice if you were doing lots of milk drinks in succession."

      my last gaggia lasted 2-3 years and then the seals started to go. the pump/boiler was fine. My brothers did the same.

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      • #18
        Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

        Fair comment GB. I have no personal experience with the Gaggias so Ill defer to yours on this one. My comment was based on http://www.coffeeco.com.au/articles/july2002.html and some other comments Ive read which all seem to indicate the boilers corrode out. The photos of an 18 month unit didnt look promising, and theres also the comment on recommendations: "GAGGIA CLASSIC & BABY Good value machines with commercial portafilters, enough steam for 2 cappuccinos. Excellent "learners" machine for beginners. Use for 2 years, sell on Ebay before problems start." All the time frames seem to line up to the 2ish year mark, but maybe the problems arent limited to just the boiler as you say.

        Greg

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        • #19
          Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

          I think the boiler issues with the classic are more to do with maintenance, like anything. If it is maintained appropriately it will have a shorter lifespan.

          My Classic is coming up to three years and still going strong. It is due to go in for a service and I would expect some of the seals etc to need replacing. Its all about general wear and tear.

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          • #20
            Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

            yea thats my point - maint means all ok on corrosion side of things. i also think with maint a 6910 with some stainless internals shoult last more than 2 years.. im just up to almost 1 year and all going strong with 6910. i have to say though i really dont feel how ANYONE can compare 6910 with classic - the 6910 si about 500% bettter in most ways. and im not bias - i loved my classics!!!!!!!!

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            • #21
              Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

              Originally posted by gaggiaboy link=1191801665/15#19 date=1192011493
              yea thats my point - maint means all ok on corrosion side of things.
              Aluminum is going to corrode no matter how well you maintain the machine. Lucinda Id be interested to see pics of the inside of your boiler if you ever get inspired to take it apart. 3 years would be interesting, especially since Im sure you maintain it well and use good quality water, and would be good to see how a aluminum boiler goes in best case scenario as it were after that long.

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              • #22
                Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

                Can i just set something else straight - i read someones post and i cant find it for ref, "the classic being a boiler machine will steam better than 6910". This is tripe! the classic steams nothing like Silvia OR 6910 in ALL ways!
                It lacks power to do volume, and recovery to do multiple actions. The 6910 has slightly more power but MAJORLY more recovery. I regulary make 8 cappacinos in a row nicely with 6910, the classic? forget it!

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                • #23
                  Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

                  Gaggiaboy: Youre probably referring to my second post in this thread http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1191801665/1#1. But what I actually said was:

                  The Gaggia being a boiler machine, youre going to get better steam volume than you will from the Sunbeam
                  I was referring to the volume of steam it can supply, not how good overall it is at steaming milk in specific situations which I think is how you remembered the comment, because I havent used it to be able to make that comparison. What I do know is that once its up to temperature it will have ~120ml of steam on tap, or super-heated water that will flash into steam when the steam valves opened, which should result in a good jet of steam. While thats not even half the Silvias 300ml, its still a good head of steam to get started with. The Sunbeam on the other hand relies on little bits of water flashing into steam as it gets pulsed into the thermoblock, and the 6910 I tested was quite unimpressive as far as steam volume went.

                  However in the same post I also mentioned:

                  The Sunbeam would be my choice if you were doing lots of milk drinks in succession.
                  because this is one of its great strengths. This agrees entirely with your comment about recovery, which demonstrates I wasnt suggesting the Gaggia is necessarily a better overall steam machine in every situation.

                  Im certainly not out to knock the Classic, or the 6910, or the Silvia. Theyre all different machines which have strengths in different areas, which therefore are going to appeal to different people for different reasons.

                  Greg

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                  • #24
                    Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

                    Yeah Greg - the boiler will be an interesting thing to see. When I descale it, I do not get much scale though, so I am expecting a little bit of build up just because of the aluminium.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Gaggia Classiv Vs. Sunbeam 6910

                      yeah cooly greg - just took it one way. Its funny though because with my 6910 tweaked (min off time, max heat) it still seem to get more power in my steam than i ever did with gaggia?

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