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  • #16
    Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

    Great posts Graham,

    Ive always wonder why Sunbeam designed the PF this way... very stupid IMHO.

    I know my group collar is worn... is it easy to purchase and replace? I personally think the group collar isnt strong enough in this area...

    regarding updosing, if you dont do it, youll get messy pucks as the Showscreen is quite high...

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    • #17
      Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

      Originally posted by Remy link=1207018893/0#5 date=1207058070
      When I first got my machine I had a few gushers out of the top of PF, and I mean gushers,.. I wore it several times,. and it was up the walls and all over my machine. I am pretty sure looking back now,.. that a couple of times this happened because I choked the machine by having the grind too fine. But there was also a couple of times when I think I didnt have the PF handle locked in far enough to achieve a proper seal needed.

      At first the PF handle was quite stiff and getting it locked in to the centre point (the position Sunbeam recommend, and say a new seal is needed if it locks further right)was hard to do with my girly wrist  :,.. however now,.. if I leave it centre it will leak a little and I now lock it quite far to the right. On the GH, where it says "secure firmly",..then a little black arrow,.. well I lock my PF in so that the left edge of my PF handle is dead in line with the tip of that black arrow.  I bought mine mid Jan,.. and who knows.. most likely it sat in a box for some time before it reached me, and the seal has deteriorated. It says in the book the seals need changing every 12months so its possible that even though our machines are only a few months old to us,.. the seal is probably due for a change.
      When you eventually do need to change the seal this is wahat Sunbeam sent me.


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      • #18
        Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

        NOTE: These instructions are intended for those people with a good understanding of mechanics. If you not confident at
        completing this task, then please contact the free-call Sunbeam Espresso Hotline on 1-800-025-059.
        fine for the home handyman with a good set of tools

        when replacing the shower screw, and the anti drip nut and spring, do not over tighten, only nip up gently, otherwise they are an absolute sh to undo next time.


        I know my group collar is worn... is it easy to purchase and replace? I personally think the group collar isnt strong enough in this area...
        there is an upgrade for the collar. there is a hard way to do this and an easy way.
        easy way takes about 2 hrs from your sunbeam coffee specialist

        graham

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        • #19
          Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

          Thanks Graham.

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          • #20
            Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

            Thanks ALL for these wonderful replies.

            Its turned into a bit of a (little) can of worms hasnt it?

            Nice to see quality info like this shared.

            Cheers, darky...........

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            • #21
              Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

              Hi Darky, I find that when mine start to leak, i give it a clean with the blind filter and it doesnt leak anymore.

              Cheers

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              • #22
                Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                Originally posted by Thundergod link=1207018893/15#16 date=1207545377
                When you eventually do need to change the seal this is wahat Sunbeam sent me.
                Interesting - my machine is different to the one in Sunbeams instructions; no locking nut on the second screen. Once Ive undone the screw, both screens and the (blue) seal come away easily.

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                • #23
                  Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                  Thats because the instructions are for the EM6900 - a bit different on the Em6910

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                  • #24
                    Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                    Originally posted by Thundergod link=1207018893/15#16 date=1207545377
                    When you eventually do need to change the seal this is wahat Sunbeam sent me.
                    Thanks heaps TG,.. I have printed it and put it in my manual. I also wrote on the printout what Graham and Mats comments were. Too easy thanks!!!

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                    • #25
                      Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                      Interesting - my machine is different to the one in Sunbeams instructions; no locking nut on the second screen. Once Ive undone the screw, both screens and the (blue) seal come away easily.
                      the boiler assembly hasnt changed, the instructions are the same for both models

                      possibly someone has put it back together wrong

                      graham

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                      • #26
                        Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                        Thats funny, mine is the same as m@ ...

                        Something doesnt add up there.

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                        • #27
                          Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                          if you pull the showers out you should find the nut screwed into the bottom of the boiler, the lower shower screw threds into this nut

                          some units have been reaasembled incorrectly
                          graham

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                          • #28
                            Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                            Hi Folks
                            My 1st post but have garnered some great information from you all thanks. I think there must be a different assemble of the present generation of 6910s. Mine (4 weeks old) has both screens fitted to the blue group seal both held into the group head by the phillips screw. There is no way the No2 screen could be held in by the No12 nut. As you can see from  photo 1 the  ridge that would hold the screen in place is well recessed and would never get to screw in with the screen acting as an enormous washer .
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                            Having said that I have wondered why the 2 screens are so close together, thought it must be to protect grinds getting up in to the drip prevent valve and to give better water dispersion.
                            But youd think putting that much heat sink into the water path is going to be a real disadvantage when it comes to getting water temperature stability. Brew water temp: seems to be one of the struggles for the machine. I put a thermo probe in between the cleaning disk and an empty 2 cup basket. While idle, with the temperature set to +4, I measured 192.4F. As soon as the brew pump is activated the temp rockets ,down 5 seconds, to 160F. Now I know holding up the flow with coffee is going to slow down the temperatur drop but I suspect the volume of 192F water is quite short. Thats why the draw blonds so early for what is a large dose of coffee.Thats also why the single cup is such a better balanced drink. I dont suppose anyone knows what volume of water the thermoblock holds ?
                            Still love the machine and its potential. Would love to have a bit more range in the brew temp though.
                            Cheers Andrew

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                            • #29
                              Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                              Thats why its wise to flush before and after you make an epsresso....regardless of what machine you use. It is good practice...not only will it solve your problem, it will spit all the gunk from your last espresso off the shower screen in to your drip tray.

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                              • #30
                                Re: 6910, newish problem, leaky group handle

                                hi techo
                                maybe they have changed the shower configuration to make it easier for the customer to replace the seal and clean the filters.
                                have been seeing a few myself of late and am awaiting answer from sunbeam

                                graham

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